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Boidamn

    firstt

    Shard

      Wooo Second! But seriously, this changes a lot of stuff. The full notes are mind-boggling to go through...

      ♕Critical_Star♕

        second

        Telo Bot

          fourth?

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          just want to win more

            fifth! i thot ns upgrade is cool!

            Кхалиси

              6ой да детка

              Keepo

                Great post

                BohrInGame™

                  Terrorblade
                  Metamorphosis Movement Speed Loss increased from 25 to 30
                  While this is a buff, it also needs to be considered that illusion based heroes are nerfed overall.

                  Wait what?!

                  kayeskay

                    Not a Chen player myself, but my friend loves the combination of both his buffs and the siege creep buffs. (He loves the persuade 5 siege creeps and wreck buildings strat)

                    Fauzan

                      -terrorblade
                      wait....

                      AAA

                        Ithink terroblade is nerfed -30 movement speed is definitely a nerf. which is okay the fact that tb is one of those top tier carries rite now or last patch

                        Abigor

                          The comment about the treant nerf is incorrect: the root from nature's guise does interrupt TPs, much like overgrowth does

                          SaMBa Axé

                            It seems to me that strength heroes favored in this patch. We will see more Sven, NightStalker, Axe, Alchemist, Bristle, Magnus, CK, DK in TI7 compared to Kiev Major.

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                            Skim

                              Treant and terroblade portions fixed, were from an older, 3am draft. Also fixed some othrr formating issues, sorry!

                              TittyNope

                                I dont get the nerf to naga....whyyyyyy...

                                nightmare bube

                                  alchemist got nerfed again
                                  but still camps might saved him

                                  Game_Sorceror_2.0

                                    the new Xp Deny is SOOO huge when it comes to support! If played correctly, I think Supports will always get lvl 20

                                    PM of Tanzania

                                      undying with a HOD. close to unkillable in the early game

                                      BurstPanther

                                        Glad for the Naga nerf, its just a played out, obnoxious hero.

                                        Doubledealer

                                          Not even going to mention the UAM changes? You can stack desolator with satanic now! It's a dream come true!

                                          Brock Hall

                                            I think for a while Icefrog wanted to make the moment to moment gameplay a little more thoughtful, and the original jungle changes were a reflection of that. The problem was that instead of making it a more challenging feat to jungle, it became unprofitable altogether. It's a good rollback, but maybe the xp can be reduced a mite further to encourage extra ganks.

                                            As good as it is to see the jungle back, I think the further encouragement of lane mechanics is the biggest change to the game right now. The opportunity for a free farmer to gain xp just went through the roof, and denying creeps throughout the game is now a profitable strategy.

                                            Nixon

                                              Great read, thanks Skim. Kunkka is a monster now at lower mmrs.

                                              luciferkid

                                                Lo, what about Pugna?

                                                Brock Hall

                                                  @Nixon

                                                  Right after the patch came out I saw a bunch of people complain about the change saying that if you can't land a ship you probably shouldn't dota. It's not that they're wrong, it's that they are missing the significance of the change, and Skim points it out perfectly.

                                                  The Glorious Goblin Lord

                                                    I wish there was a dislike option. Agree with this very subjective article or not, you have to admit it was sloppy. I've quite frankly come to expect better work from this site.

                                                    (h)appy(b)oy

                                                      Soul Catcher in a huge AOE is such a sleeper change. You thought Fatal Bonds was bad? Prepare to die purple.

                                                      We Got This Boys!

                                                        guys... guys... Why is no one talking about techies +250 damage talent. Please @Skim give us your analysis on this.

                                                        P.S :- Love this blog. Every time a new article comes out I let out a small squeal of joy. Keep it up my friend. Cheers!!

                                                        No Handshake

                                                          A couple of hopefully constructive remarks:
                                                          - DENY MECHANICS: you could have mentioned as well that free farming in lane is now much more efficient than before; coupled with the decreased in creep vision it creates an imperative to gank the safelaner while doing it with more positional uncertainty
                                                          - SHRINES: roaming supports and offlaners mostly suffer from this change, which makes life a bit easier for cores
                                                          - NEUTRALS: you rightly point out that stacking is back, but an immediate consequence of this plus the points above is that trilanes are back, too
                                                          - ECONOMY: the change in gold lost per death makes it so that from level 10 on you lose more gold per death than pre-7.06

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                                                          Imrahil™

                                                            Regarding charge based abilities, doesn't Sniper's Shrapnel count as one? And wouldn't refresher refresh that as well? 14 stacks of shrapnel is somewhat comparable to an aghs blackhole IMO.

                                                            1K'mmr_❤❥nTf•Ds❤❥

                                                              Sven is back.. bad for spectre.. sven has burst damage.. sad

                                                              matrice

                                                                "The stats and benefits it provides outside of the disarm aren’t particularly great"

                                                                Kidding us ? Halberd is the single most powerfull item in term of defense, and that, no matter what amount of hp/armor you already have (on legit build) while being quite cheap

                                                                ㅛㅅㄱㄷㅈ

                                                                  Enchant 55% slow at early.. Love it

                                                                  Brock Hall

                                                                    @Imrahil™

                                                                    He was talking about heroes that regularly get refesher. I can't imagine that people would choose it over an extra dps item.

                                                                    cronimson

                                                                      that naga buff makes me feel icefrog wants OG to win TI

                                                                      Number One

                                                                        @imrahil
                                                                        Pretty sure the sniper shrapnel appears as a damaging and slow aura on enemy and it doesnt stack. Wouldnt really think he has a spot for refresher

                                                                        NightShade

                                                                          The memes are dead boyz...IO arcana released

                                                                          Just Get Out Of My Way

                                                                            this post is filled with trash...1k post...also late af

                                                                            mo'kah

                                                                              Early jungle is nerfed.

                                                                              I feel this will push roaming more which is great news.

                                                                              And MK is not nerfed in my eyes. I have been playing him. He is STRONG. Just don't play him as pos4, that role got nerfed.

                                                                              stars

                                                                                3-4k mmr analysis

                                                                                243-

                                                                                  Really, mk gives 20 armor, svens warcry gives 15, weave 32 and is it still really good carry? And u forget that ducking 4 times to attack...

                                                                                  Brock Hall

                                                                                    @MILLENIUMinMMR

                                                                                    Keep in mind that warcry persists after Sven dies and the bonus from Wukong's Command ends upon the spell ending, which can happen if MK dies or moves away from the circle. It only applies to those standing within the circle (Not positive on that point but I haven't seen anything to specify otherwise). In other words Sven has a more reliable armor buff for the team with a far greater uptime ratio.

                                                                                    YoRHa No. 2 Type E

                                                                                      One hell of an awesome patch

                                                                                      UNCLE KUSH

                                                                                        OMG FIRST THX FOR THE SUPPORT GUYZ LULZ

                                                                                        Lord Buckethead

                                                                                          This patch changed the game quite a bunch. Like there is no sort of BS defense up until min 50-60 because of the respawn talent, the shrine nerf, the change in death cost and the creeps

                                                                                          It's a race to the bottom to see who can complete Siltbreaker the fastest. Check out the rankings now!