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Z__

    ^
    The item build was ok-ish, the skill build was trash.

    Vaikiss`742.

      alex its been confirmed for long as time that universe was the one carrying them

      id say it goes like

      universe > zai > ppd > mason > arteezy (depending on heroes)

      but universe never underperforms that guys is a wonder

      Coroner

        If he wasnt on Void, Vici would simply be on finals. You simply can rely on him. He exposes super and rotk to whole team, finishes support by himself. YOu gotta show some respect to him cause HE is the reason why EG went so far.

        Coroner

          And now mason is on void. Ooookkk...

          Hassan

            Universe underperformed in game 1 but carried EG game 2 so all is well

            Noé

              ok what the hell why the fuck would they give void to mason when universe did wonders with it.
              they deserve to lose just for picking mirana support

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              Coroner

                And what, give timber to mason?
                ROFL

                Noé

                  give timber mid to arteezy he actually used to play it while on kaipi

                  sleave

                    @Oleksandr and you avoid the fact they couldn't extend the match to the late game not even in a thousand years thus you keep defending it as it was atleast viable doesnt make you dumb? Picking midas is taking RTZ off of the game for atleast 15-20 minutes but yea it will do wonders late :D they had no map control at all, they couldn't stop VG fights by no means, they couldn't kite them nor defend high ground, surely midas was the best thing to do just in case of VG afks in the fountain for the next 30 minutes

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                    sleave

                      give alch to mason, timber to rtz, send rtz to offlane to face sylar and universe mid as void

                      but whatever i just want my rares go vg

                      Noé

                        give mirana to mason, alch support, timber to rtz mid, and void offlane

                        Vaikiss`742.

                          lol they picked alch for early lvl 7 to protect towers with imba aoe of spray

                          combined that with midnight pu;lse u will never push high ground w/o pickoff or overcommit

                          ♨Dacheat♨

                            Yeah I thought they were gonna go Mirana Mason, RTZ Timber, and Universe Void.

                            Totentanz to The King: M ...

                              They deserve losing for not RTZ Timber.

                              sleave

                                EZ RARES FUCK MY LIFE

                                tv/disruptive_pilot

                                  I guess Asians got TI4 once again.

                                  Vaikiss`742.

                                    this arteezy so bad

                                    buying midas

                                    wtf was that rosh sacrificing 2 towers and whole game to take roshan in 1 and a half mins

                                    mwhahaha MOTHER CHINA IN FINALZ !@!@!@!@!

                                    Numberwang

                                      eg punished by their own retarded greed

                                      sleave

                                        now can someone explain what was that rosh thing?
                                        and the midas AGAIN, SAME SCENARIO (maybe less one sided this time), WTF SRSLY

                                        Mia

                                          now we have a boring 90 min finals over 9 games gg shit TI

                                          Marko

                                            And we got racist chinese final. No one wanna see this shit. Why the fuck 5 chineseteams are allowed in ti4?!?!

                                            Z__

                                              THIS midas was a horrible desition. They were still able to win fights, no need to grab a fucking 15 mins midas if you have chances to not drop the game at 20 mins.

                                              kanye went to uni

                                                ^^that is the most ironic comment i've ever seen

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                                                sleave

                                                  actually VG is the team with the lowest average match duration in ti

                                                  Noé

                                                    this was like one of the least entertaining TIs ive watched

                                                    ICE SKULL

                                                      vg and newbee doesnt do 40+ minutes games

                                                      Vaikiss`742.

                                                        inb4 5 0 20 min finalz

                                                        rambosalad

                                                          Luckily eg lost, because I won't be able to watch the games anyways. What a let down

                                                          Whatever

                                                            Not watching the finals fuck this shit.

                                                            Marko

                                                              Problem here is: There chinese teams trained together for ti4. They know what the other gonna play /pick. So games will go pretty long. Im calling them racists because they didnt wanna train with dk because of ice3 and mushi not being chinese guys.
                                                              So watching the final is just waste of time. Dont give any attention to this bastards from china. Dont even invite china anymore. fuckin idiots.

                                                              tv/disruptive_pilot

                                                                Can chinese teams get banned from participating in future TIs?

                                                                Numberwang

                                                                  Is it just me or has this years TI main event been less exciting than last years? I think deciding the first grand finalist on the first day was a shitty decision by valve

                                                                  Vaikiss`742.

                                                                    in my former teams we didint scrim with russians either cuz they are retards

                                                                    teams have their own preferences and if i dont like playing against autists i won't

                                                                    if someone don't like to play against mushi they wont (plus i doubt any team likes when their mid is being raped in lane)

                                                                    ♨Dacheat♨

                                                                      I'm actually excited for VG vs. Newbee y'all a bunch of haters.

                                                                      Mia

                                                                        worst TI ever. 2 chineese teams in finals is just so fking boring. hell i rather watch walking dead instead of that shit as it has more action in it.

                                                                        Hassan

                                                                          sad, if they just had Fear they would have gone further

                                                                          Coroner

                                                                            90MINUTES GAME? newbee and vg? are u people retarded? are u actually watching international???

                                                                            Seoulmate

                                                                              China has moved from 90 minute games to 10 minute games

                                                                              Mia

                                                                                ^ & ^^ have you ever watched chineese teams in finals?

                                                                                No matter the team it happens EVERY.SINGLE.GAME. is a 90 min circlejerk

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                                                                                sleave

                                                                                  @Renmaru that thing they didn't scrim with DK was a lie and Mushi himself apologized later. They scrimed with DK. They are racist YES, they have said that a million times, BUT they did play with DK.

                                                                                  Krazy Kat

                                                                                    @Dacheat
                                                                                    "Yeah I thought they were gonna go Mirana Mason, RTZ Timber, and Universe Void."
                                                                                    They might have won with that lineup.

                                                                                    https://twitter.com/Arteezy/status/464589351431991296

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                                                                                    Vaikiss`742.

                                                                                      VG2fast4eg <3

                                                                                      Coroner

                                                                                        ROFL. Out of all this main event games, where stakes are so fucking high, THERE WAS 1 FUCKING game above 1 hour. And it was epic DK throw yesterday. So yeah, you guys are obviously talking bullshit

                                                                                        Quick maffs

                                                                                          You guys are talking so much bullshit, both newbee and vg rolfstomps the enemy team really quickly so i dont know why you all talking this shit about long boring games.

                                                                                          but chill guys i understand, your favorite team lost, you are mad, i get it, but no need to hate on chinese teams.

                                                                                          I am 100 % sure that everyone in this thread bitching about the finals were EG fans.

                                                                                          btw newbee are not racists they just didnt like to scrim against dk because of dk not serious kind of picks

                                                                                          "Problem here is: There chinese teams trained together for ti4. They know what the other gonna play /pick. So games will go pretty long. Im calling them racists because they didnt wanna train with dk because of ice3 and mushi not being chinese guys.
                                                                                          So watching the final is just waste of time. Dont give any attention to this bastards from china. Dont even invite china anymore. fuckin idiots.·

                                                                                          Hey, you are a fucking idiot, and the funny thing is that you are being racist

                                                                                          "fuckin idiots."

                                                                                          They are idiots because .... ?????????????????????????????????

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                                                                                          ICE SKULL

                                                                                            yeh fucking racist u are scum of earth pls go die, all racists must be burned in a gas chamber

                                                                                            NewJeans

                                                                                              Who said that racist comment or whatever it was about? And y newbee cry about scrims. Aren't these guys generally all friends anyway?

                                                                                              Quick maffs

                                                                                                Newbee didnt like to play against DK because they thought that dk didnt take those scrims seriously

                                                                                                After that people started calling newbee racist because they thought that newbee didnt want to play against dk because dk had 2 non-chinese players

                                                                                                tl:dr people are drama queens

                                                                                                kanye went to uni

                                                                                                  I remember in that Hotbid interview with Puppey and Envy, Puppey said that "it's all true" when asked about DK being boycotted. Also, let's be honest here, if it was some sort of nationality thing, iceiceice would probably not want to stir shit. I remember RTZ mentioning the issues DK had with Newbee in previous interviews as well.

                                                                                                  That said, I'm pretty sure VG did actually scrim vs DK during the boycott (or whatever) so madboy china-hater's comments are still stupid....

                                                                                                  S-God ✔

                                                                                                    Hex Sigma

                                                                                                      @dorkly i actually didn't liked eg(personal opinion), im more salty because c9 got eliminated so easily. But tbh they kinda lacked the experience.