Problem with carries overall is that in this meta (comparing to the old ones) is that neutral creeps dont give much. Its not worth afk farming. Kills > farming unless you have better late game strat and you can easily turtle.
Ive recently played a game with Luna in which we were losing all lanes. Despite this fact I managed to find some space and get 350 cs/30 min mark when enemy LS had 160 cs. But he was 10 0 13 at that point. He had 650 gpm, I had 450 gpm in the end.
In the past metas pre 7.00 if you farmed fast, enemies would have almost no chance to win.
Nowadays its much easier to grind with any other position than pos 1.
That plus the fact that Offlane is generally meant to shit on Safelane means that a lot of carries suffer... even having access to catchup like glaives or flash farm is at a premium, or even better yet having a safelaner who can win their lane. This is part of the reason why Gyro, Slark and Bloodseeker safelane are having a resurgence, if picked into the right games.
I have been getting shit on by playing mainly carry for 3 months now . Every last one of the carry is dogshit unless it can push towers or waves quickly , and without a 16 min battlefury timing .
Naga with a decent microing, map awareness, lane pushing understanding and a team that can handle the 4 - 1 strat.
However, this recipe is most of the time incomplete in OP's tier.
^Yes but the map control through pushing cap wasn't highlighted.
Naga is the next level :
- allows to push 2 lanes at the same time (split illusions with control groups)
- farm triangle or camps at the same time
- bait ennemies with a decent micro
However, you need to mute your team in archon tier cause you'll get flamed for:
- not suiciding with them on the ennemy on an up shrine 3v5 whereas you could get those sweet towers
- baiting spells and forcing tp with illusions instead of running like Leeroy Jenkins with the real naga and give ennemies this sweet 800g bounty
- your allies getting pickedoff at the other side of the map while you are controlling 2 lanes + triangle/camps
- joining only relevant fights instead of dying with them
Be ready to get reported from both sides if you play her however, quotes here after.
Quotes examples from allies in archon games:
- "Naga AFK farming 30 minutes" whereas you have the summed up networth, building dmgs and dmgs of your team and won the 1v9 challenge
- "Naga never joining fight" whereas you cant tp where your team is even with BoTs or they engaged an awful fight
- "Naga never coming def towers"(t2) whereas you are forcing a TP to make the fight 5v4 and trading
- [...]
Quote examples from ennemies in archon games:
- "Naga smurf" because you know control groups
- "Naga booster" because you 1v9 the game
- "FU NAGA REPORT GABEN NERF" because you baited this omnislash/chrono/blackhole or you melted with support only with your illusions
- "REPORT MY CARRY" because you forced a TP with illusions and turned the real teamfight
- [...]
Very fun carry to play still.
Edit: Went on an other account 5 months ago, thanks to drink vodka play dotka.
i think you can play lycan and go domi agh every game and win every lane and and make very big impact just having agh in the inventory and you can rape building very fast too
lycan is dogshit can lose to most offlaners
What if he wins the game ? other than that he fits the pos3 so he is against the ennemy carry and not against ennemies offlaner.
Archon 2 on a smurf, lawl.
how he can wins the lane?? IDk!!
jugg vs lycan? ursa vs lycan? slark vs lycan? what?
hell even pudge vs lycan XDDDD
he need super support non greedy trader so he can lane otherwise lane is lose and maybe the game
also he farm too slow and cant clear waves , need 2 items at least after treads to become effective and if he is given space can get those at 25 mins meanwhile offlaners and chen on the enemy are eating your towers
no escape until 6 and if enemy has skywrath or lesh or some broken magic shit ganker you are done for because you dont want to build manta or bkb after treads on this hero .
how can lycan deal with level 7 sky or lesh or zeus ganking his lane at min 8
he is just dead creep trust me..
lycan is better to play on mid than safe at the moment.
and no, lycan is not that bad, u are.
jugg vs lycan? ursa vs lycan? slark vs lycan? what?
https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/winning
Lycan Winrate : 53%
Slark winrate < 50%
Jugg winrate < 48%
Ursa winrate ~ 51%
pudge vs lycan
Maybe you can block the hook with your wolves ? Ah, I forgot you are archon 2 you don't know how to micro.
after treads
You are supposed to have HotD by lvl 6 - 7 if you know how to CS, not treads.
broken magic shit ganker
Strength provides magic resistance.
how can lycan deal with level 7 sky or lesh or zeus ganking his lane at min 8
By killing them easilly with wolves + dominated creeps + ulti ?
I guess you are trolling or you are a carried smurf herald according to your speech.
Bye.
let him be, archon badge and talking
i didnt saw this part
after treads=)) Hi La Rious
stick to ur skymage, thats only hero u can play. tnx to valve we have heroes for braindamaaged ppl too :)
https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/lycan/counters
imagine saying sky,zeus,pudge are good against lycan :))))
#RealLifeRetard
You can still take over and solo win games as pos 1, more so than any other role except mid.
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just buff JUG AM URSA DK they are too bad cant even be played