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General DiscussionBest ultra late game carry in dota?

Best ultra late game carry in dota? in General Discussion
rED

    So guys, which hero do you think is best ultra late game 6 slotted carry with agha and moonshard buff in dota 2?

    Back in the time

      Spectre

      kowareta

        spec, jugg, slark
        oh w8, i forgot about it, for sure silencer is the scariest late game hero to me.

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        Sheep

          spectre and terror blade.

          ck, ls and ursa can tear through spectre 1v1 but she has high mobility and also provides huge chaos element to fights.
          So even if they can "kill her" late game she provides much more then just damage. and in a team I would trade any of those for her if we consider same NW.

          lc can theoreticly 1 hit any hero at some point but just like other examples - she is 1 target killer. not lots of mobility so she can be kited easly. thats why I wont consider her late game as much.

          faceless void with back track and both the time walk talents (-1.5s time and range)

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          paNightmare mirror

            Arc Warden for sure

            xDeprived

              Spectre and TB.

              '96 Neve Campbell

                Why are people saying TB? Hes more of a mid-late powerhouse like anti-mage or PA... He isnt as scary as something like a Spectre super late

                matrice

                  super late game, spectre is so bad.
                  The strength of spectre is to demolish (without even trying) heroes who have little to no stuff compare to him. And there's always 2 to 4 heroes like that in mid-late game.
                  In ultra late game, everyone have so much stuff that spectre becomes quite irrelevant.

                  Anyway, ultra late game, probably storm.
                  Dk, tb and void are always super scary when they are 8 slotted, regardless of opponent's item, silencer is really scarry atm too

                  Good Person

                    I would give my vote to lone druid in super late game

                    Oldman

                      I would hate to play vs super late game Io, because he can pierce through backdoor easy.

                      inx4c

                        DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY ARE PLAYING AGAINST

                        RukanoV

                          Its Troll no other hero can beat him 1 v 1 late

                          Clippy

                            I mean technically LC and Pudge scale infinitely. But like if we talking between 50-65 minutes then I'm pretty sure Spec wins because of dispersion.

                            KUKULAMIN KA BUT THE K IS...

                              Ember rapira

                              SirFalcon

                                Nobody out carries Chaos

                                DUMBASSNOOBLOLZ

                                  Void imo
                                  full slotted void is a nightmare

                                  Metsis

                                    The longer the game goes, heroes Pudge, Silencer, Legion Commander, Slark, Underlord get more powerful beyond skill points and items. One of these must be the most powerful hero when it goes to ultra late game. These are the open ended heroes that never stop getting stronger. Other heroes have a cap on their power...

                                    Yami Yugi

                                      One of these must be the most powerful hero when it goes to ultra late game

                                      With a scenario of ULTRA RARE, Pudge, Silencer, Legion Commander, Slark, Underlord which do you think snowball harder in their SCALING Ability than the rest past level 25 after 6 slotted?

                                      i noob

                                        Arc Warden
                                        CK
                                        Elter Titan
                                        Legend Commander
                                        Pudge
                                        Medu
                                        Spec
                                        Engima~

                                        Yami Yugi

                                          SCALING Ability than the rest past level 25 after 6 slotted?

                                          say, each have 3 kill per minute, after 30 mins

                                          AloneInKyōto

                                            Yeah but Lone Druid Gets 12 Slotted so it won’t matter. He Can Abyssal You twice and Infinite root and eat you.

                                            ETd

                                              Techies

                                              Fuka suginai o nīchan

                                                TB / Spec / PL

                                                inx4c

                                                  Anyway... Pretty much what matrice said, I would also add qop to that list

                                                  Feachairu

                                                    mabe mk medusa ember also

                                                    BABING

                                                      An uncountered Ck is by far the best late game carry. Next to that Slark. with like +200 agi from his passive lol

                                                      Glimmer of Dawn

                                                        Heroes and their lategame potential is rarely useful to look at in a vacuum, because of how heroes work. Are they countered? Do they have a free game? Are they the ultimate lategame for the game?

                                                        For example, heroes like PL and naga siren can be obnoxious and look like the hardest carries in the game, if the opponents don't have a good way to deal with illusions.

                                                        TB is similar. He's a midgame powerhouse but with meta he can kill all 3 rax after a good teamfight in the ultralategame. His peak of strength may be past in the ultra super duper late, but his ability to kill base at any given time makes him good in the lategame.

                                                        LD may have the potential to get 12 slots, but if the game is that ultra super duper late diebacks are gonna have more impact or a refresher bkb enigma than a 12-slotted LD, basically just have more teamfight.

                                                        Spectre is an amazing lategame hero, but she's much weaker when she doesn't have weak supports to predate upon, and her lategame potential is far weaker if there's easy sources of break available, as well as an enemy manfight carry who just wants to 1v1 her down during break.

                                                        In general it's better to be uncountered on a midgame powerhouse than be objectively a later game carry with multiple counters. Like sure, Gyrocopter could get multiple rapiers and be terrifying with flak cannon, but how realistic is that to use as a bar for how hard of a carry he is?