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acc buyers in my team

    Ok so i read the whole patch and this time icefraud made such nice changes. Heroes that where broken got nerfed, but are still usable, underpowered heroes got buffed to the point where they got useful. But there are 2 changes, that made me go WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.

    First:
    Each team now has a Scan ability, available on the minimap UI.

    Scans a targeted 900 AoE for 8 seconds. Indicates whether there are enemy heroes in that area during the 8 seconds.
    Starts on cooldown and has a global team-wide cooldown of 4.5 minutes
    Note: Does not consider units inside the Roshan Pit, but does consider Smoked units. Does not show how many heroes there are, just if there are any enemies. Enemies do not know when your team casts it.

    Smoke just got useless, GG icefraud. If you have somewhat decent gameread, then you pretty much win every game by using that scan ability. Meaning players like miracle road to 9k.

    Second:
    Bloodthorn. Really? That item is so broken it's not even funny. Meepo is now by far the strongest rightclicker in the game. There is literally no hero that can survive being jumped by meepo / tb / pl, bye tanky counters, you may rest in pieces. From a lategame perspective, it's safe to say, that sven and timber are no longer strong meepo counters, they are now ember spirits type counters, if not even worse, because they can't kill a meepo as fast as ember.

    Icefraud made myfavorite hero OP as fuck,if it wasn't for my current shitty internet i'd start grinding now.

    TripleSteal-

      you want to build bloodthrone on meepo? it doesnt give you any stats u need, the buildup is awful. it costs a bit too much to waste ur money on it as meepo and not expect it to give u anything besides the active, tbh.

      also quick reminder that, unlike hex, it doesnt prevent targets from going into glimmer cape or dispelling silence with eul, which timbersaw usually has; and doesnt stop sven from using bkb.

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      TripleSteal-

        u pay 7200 gold for an orchid, 1.35 dmg increase, evasion break and +25 intelligence. i dont see how is this good on meepo in any scenario.

        acc buyers in my team

          Hell yeah I'm going to build it on meepo.
          -> PT, Aghs, Sheep, Diff/eblade, Bloodthrone

          GG.

          Meepo players always had the problem, that timber and Sven where so hard to kill. Usually you would jump them and do around 70-80% dmg, they turn and suddenly meepo dead. Now they will always die, easy pickoffs.

          MARLAN

            actually is 1.76x dmg.

            all meepos crit which is something they can never do before, so you get 1.35x dmg, but you also get the 1.3x amp damage at the end.

            i think its definitely a situational buy on meepo that can work. meepo could never crit or truestrike (except hex) before.

            i mean ya, items like bkb/euls/etc. can break it, but thats why its a situational buy.

            for the cost, and the fact BKB can break it, it is absolutely RARE situational buy, but if you're in a game where for some reason they don't have BKBs and there is someone really tanky or has spells you want to stop, you could grab that shit yea.

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            arin

              Each team now has a Scan ability, available on the minimap UI.

              so that's why there was that little square on corner of the map
              i thought it's supposed to delete the shit that ppl drawn on minimap that doesn't work

              so it was a planned new ability?

              quity

                icefraud is oracle confirmed

                MARLAN

                  @arin

                  im pretty sure this scan idea came out of their asses and someone was like OH lets use that box on the minimap

                  also why the fuck are there bananas still in this game, i was SURE it was a joke.

                  stun trap on use and permanent +4 int?

                  really?

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                  TripleSteal-

                    so there are bananas in cm lobby games and ranked matches?

                    acc buyers in my team

                      @Marlan:
                      Exacly, as a guy who plays meepo, you can only confirm, that an item like that was all Meepo needed to be able to handle Timber and Sven lategame.

                      Those where the only 2 heroes, those were the only heroes that made a meepo player worry about lategame. All the other counters like Ember, Shaker, Magnus and so on, where rather easy to handle, since they die way faster and a pickoff is rather easy, especially in pubs. I only did consider Timber and Sven to be real counters pre 6.87, now i am finally able to handle those 2 shitty heroes as a meepo player, so i don't need to rat anymore when i play against em.

                      I would assume many meepo players see it very similair the way i do.