Can someone from HS/VHS tell me how good viper is to counter Ursa/Sven/Spectre? Everytime the enemy picks Ursa i counter pick with viper (the slow from ulti is just too damn good and it pierces magic immunity). Late game Sven and Spectre i guess should be wrecking Viper but i try to shut down these guys early game where viper seems to be quite strong. Am i making sense or is this something that would only work in my sub 2k mmr normal skill bracket?
^ursa and sven get countered pretty good by viper
With spek im not shure in mid gamee and late game, but if you go agro duo with viper+ sup you shoul win the lane hard vs spek
spec ull need to give her a hard time in lane, and if you have something like sven carry you can fight and end the game at like 20-25 since sven will have massive farm and spec should not. Sven and ursa have the same problem of massive kiting, something like beastmaster off and you control them with roar during fights.
Sven does not need to be nerfed at all, and neither does Ursa. OD perhaps but I'm an OD player so I'm not complaining :D
yeah how about no
sven is strong just because some people figured the proper way to play him
and yet, he's definitely not a freewin hero
i hope that sven remains unchanged
@pefeccionist normal skilled player, last game 1 month ago. You dont know nothing about dota.
Sven is super broken, ursa and od are stronger, but both still killeabe. od by silences / bkb ursa by aoe disables crossing bkb (beastmaster, magnus, enigma)
PD: sven is broken for sure, super broken
its not too hard to counter ursa, he's only good in a 1v1 fight
Phantom lancer is pretty good against him
od is terrible when silenced
http://www.dotafire.com/dota-2/guide/a-guide-to-the-harbinger-6-86-24575#chapter9
silencer might be a pretty good counter
dotabuff says sniper is an alright counter to sven but i havent tried this
if anyone is hard to counter it is broodmother but dont trust me, i hardly play dota, only started learning last year
OD needs nerf.
Though you just silence him to win.
Aside from that Sven and Ursa are easy to counter. Learn how to do so.
OD doesn't need nerf. Just pick stuns and he blows up easily.
Sven is pretty strong though he can be dealt with if the person playing him is retarded. Unfortunately most of the Sven's I have had on my team have been retarded.
Ursa is also pretty strong but can be countered with slows/illusions etc etc. He's a niche pick and dominates against certain lineups but gets fucked over by Lone Druid as I found out.
His int steal per hit is OP. I once play slardar and got a few hit from him then i have no mana at all. Not zero mana but no mana.
OD doesn't need to be nerfed.. ask me why cuz u stupid ppl dont buy items that can fit in the game
Just buy bkb or one of the support buy orchid or have stunner ... now what is od ... he is useless now
Nerf the comeback system
Its ridiculous how fast you can lose your lead by feeding 2k gold by 1 death
We know how to counter OD but in the early game we get anally raped possibly never to come back again.
And that retarded hero doesn't even need mana since he' fulls his mana with his overpowered Q and steals all of your mana as well not to mention his game breaking ulti
best counters for ursa and sven? Shadow Deamon his unt purges off their buffs. If you want to counter OD and Invoker pick silencer and pugna, and if you want to counter invoker just be the cancer and pick OD. its that simple
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Freaking Valve they should nerf Sven, Ursa and Outworld Devourer.