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General DiscussionHows reborns matchmaking algorithm working out so far?

Hows reborns matchmaking algorithm working out so far? in General Discussion
Bad Intentions

    Is it still purely win-loss based? no other factors are still involved right?

    Livin' Real Good

      Absolutely garbage, everyone I know (even my friend that's 6.3K) win rate is gone down like fucking crazy, i'm saying i'm even close to good at this game, but the level of horribleness is at an all time high, it all started with reborn, I had freakin 54% win rate for the longest, and most my friends have gone from 55% to borderline 53.99 and stuff. o_O I was getting close to 4K too, wahhhh'

      I'm definitely sure something changed.

      nrl

        Yeah, Valve is obviously doing some experiments with matchmaking recently(this may explain why leaderboards are unavailable) and the algorithms for matching players defenitely aren't the same as they used to be.

        There are defenitely more variables besides MMR and language that are taken into account when matching players.

        Proof: http://www.twitch.tv/chessie/v/18467583?t=102m10s
        I really doubt that this was caused just by language settings players selected.

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        Pale Mannie

          Recently i win 3 times but enemies are trash and then i lose 3 games but my team is more trash than enemies...

          Nice balance you have found volvo

          Kaidax

            I've had a streak of griefers in every fucking game getting me to the point I only play on a smurf now. Matching algorithms might not have necessarily changed, maybe the LPQ amnesty flooded RMM with trolls.

            Seoulmate

              @yorkey

              not everyone you know, I was 52% near 54% now

              Livin' Real Good

                Nope! You were higher than the win rate you have now at one point! I remember you almost having a 55% win rate. O_O Ahh' gerghaerngjkrbg, whateva !~

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                  plz do

                    i experienced that there are less dual mid locks. i think valve puts u together based on which position u play and then ull be on the loser or winner team. i think that valve can actually foresee the winner team by mb 90%.

                    Welt aus Eis

                      i just played a 4.8k avg pub it was so much fun, my team had pudge lina dual offlane and mirana sup

                      Giff me Wingman

                        I was never win loss based, whoever thinks that is a retard.

                        Matchmaking algorythm is as usual good, but ruined by account buyers, boosters, people who went inactive, griefers etc.

                        Oldman

                          I had 59% win rate on VHS bracket. I was constantly grinding my mmr. 25 points on average per day. I was 4.2 k and dropped to 3.8 within 2 days and now since 40 games im still 3.8 k. I win one and lose one. If i win 2 i lose 2. Seriously wtf is happening. Nothing has changed in my playstyle though i cant get my points back.

                          Is it the comeback system ? Or just like blunt said above ? Or both together? Cos literally nothing changed in my playstyle, i work even harder for +25 points now.

                          Giff me Wingman

                            That's how statistic works. You found your skill thats why you will from now on always be +- 3.8k. The meta changes and with that some playstyles are more favorable than others. Let's say you like to play heroes like meepo, then you will be weaker this meta since he is awful atm.

                            If you are a doom player your MMR would be higher.

                            In your case it's simply the meta that crushes you, so your winrate dropped and you are currently stuck at 3.8k.The only way to get out of your range is to learn heroes which fits the current meta better or simply get much better with heroes who rather suck.

                            outerspaceboys

                              eh i think this is gud since ive been getting ez win in ranked. (i know its just normal skill ranked) Lol

                              Tally

                                i think for ranked it's been about the same but I feel like for unranked they've relaxed the hidden mmr restrictions. We're getting matched up with opponents that are either much lower or much higher than us so games tend to be stomps. Has anyone else had this experience

                                Dominus

                                  Feels to me as if those with a win streak are pitted against those with a loss streak of a roughly even amount. Not sure why they'd purposely do this, although what I have witnessed might just come down to pure coincidence.

                                  Giff me Wingman

                                    It's coincidence i think.

                                    Dance of the NeoVim

                                      I've been winning a lot lately. I also played a lot of ranked party where games AVG mmr is like 7-800 more than my solo mmr but stuff is gut. Hail silencer !!!

                                      2H

                                        my solo and party mmr both raised 300 points ,,,

                                        normal pubs is weird , many time i get a gap over 1500 MMR with my teammates

                                        Riguma Borusu

                                          "i think for ranked it's been about the same but I feel like for unranked they've relaxed the hidden mmr restrictions. We're getting matched up with opponents that are either much lower or much higher than us so games tend to be stomps. Has anyone else had this experience"

                                          I did, I've been matched with Normal skill people with 43% winrate and 400 games in total, and with VHS players with 2-4k games. Dunno why they did this, but yeah it's a bit extreme.

                                          Reese

                                            i've noticed that my normal very high skill is pretty inaccurate, i can get people from 3k to 5k
                                            besides this i don't know why but i'm getting better games in ranked, 3.6k bracket