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General DiscussionAm I alone in this?

Am I alone in this? in General Discussion
Filthy

    if I have a game with anti mage where I carry my team on my back , I feel drained from it more so then from other heros due to all the constant movement , I am sure a hero like tinker is a lot worse . Like if I played 10 am games in a day I'd be pretty burnt out on Dota

    Trodlabundin

      ya ur alone. im sure its ur mejntality that causes it

      Miku Plays

        wen i pik lc i feel like everyone is stoopid tey tel me i buy blink first. kappa

        Metallicize

          im sure its because you are not used to constantly doing thigs.
          cuz thats what am is doing (always farming/pushing)
          yo btw you need to have at least 10cs/min if you wanna say you played ok antimage

          Filthy

            Well I sef would not say I am a good anti mage but my last game was 9.3 cs per min so was close to ur milestone :p

            MARLAN

              http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1760495751

              is this enough cs/min for u

              Metallicize

                thats about the normal cs you wanna have with am at that minute, keepo

                2H

                  more lot of fun play am than play hero like viper , razor , gyro, etc

                  Dunning-Kruger-Doto

                    10 is a bit high... A game where the farmspace is cut off by enemy (aka many many am games), cause your team can't makeup for the 4v5 at the start proper like 7-9 cs is ok. It also depends on the time wjhen the game ends. In a 30 min game 300 cs is harder to get than 400 in a 40 min game. It also depends on your teammates. If you have sf mid and lina support, they will take quite alot farm, too. On the other hand a stacking support will help you in that cs.

                    10 is what you should aim for.

                    @Topic

                    Yes, playing am is exhausting. You put alot of pressure on your team ("Omfg he picked am, gg") and on yourself. You need good mapawerness and need to always think the next step ahead: "Where do I find my next creeps". Also decisionmaking is tyring ("Fight or Split?", "Who to jump in fight aka who used big mana spells") etc.

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                    Metallicize

                      no dude its bad if you have less than 10 cs min with am, this means:
                      a) you suck balls with the hero
                      b) you had a min 300 bf
                      c) you feed like a retard, see a)
                      d) people trying to fuck you up solo so hard that they lose the game which is good i guess
                      e) you have naga that farms everything (naga + am in same team not too high chance of winnig tho)

                      if you have magnus on your team then you should quit even trying to play am if you dont have 10 cs/min.
                      in a game i don't have 10 cs/min it is usually d) or b) but if i don't die to often and have at least min 13-14 bf i don't see how 10cs/min is an issue

                      EmptyJar

                        You had 15cs/min at 85 and you think it's high, how about 15cs/min at 35?
                        http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1677984317

                        outerspaceboys

                          I think its because most AM game is damnn longgg

                          Filthy

                            Ehh I just think I am doing more stuff per minute with am between all the blinking tread switching optimizing last hits deciding where to farm next / split push / still keep an eye out for a worthwhile teamfight / keeping an eye on enemy movements . It's fun , but I think over several games in a row my efficiently would drop doing that

                            Kitrak
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                              Filthy

                                I bet, what about tinker ?

                                Kitrak
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                                  jo~

                                    going old school diffusal naga is ok if their lineup lacks aoe tho, then you can just have a braindead mid game ^_^

                                    #12

                                      I feel drained when I am on a team with an anti-mage. Either he is farming well and leaving the rest of the team dirt poor and 4v5. Or he is farming badly and the team is going to need to fight with out a carry.

                                      Also if he is the first type, I just know I am going to get flamed by him for having many deaths and little farm (even though he took all the farm, and left the rest of the team to fight at a disadvantage).

                                      Fuck AM I cant w8 until he gets nerfed back into oblivion. Smug little shit needs to learn coexist with magic users.

                                      Metallicize

                                        a good am will splitpush lanes and farm enemy woods, so that his team always has acces to at least 1 lane and their own woods.

                                        besides, playing a hero like am where u constantly tread switch, blink, cut trees, farm, look around the map, think where the enemy could be, do sneaky roshes and splitpushes helps you a lot to develop a sense of the game, and helps gid gud in general if younowaramsain

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                                        Metallicize

                                          i actually like to play heroes that require high apm and intense hero control jsut cuz it helps me keep focused, whereas if i play viper or bh or something i can have 60 apm and still be useful in a way

                                          arin

                                            ^ this so much

                                            funnily, i'm playing worse with low apm heroes because i get bored or don't focus enough and do shit

                                            MARLAN

                                              still higher CS/Min than u, sorry.

                                              also, should point out, we were mega'd for 40 minutes. it wasn't exactly easy farm.

                                              Bruce Almighty (smurf)

                                                how about my main acount
                                                500+ games Tinker
                                                http://www.dotabuff.com/players/134940944

                                                WonderWaiter

                                                  I play naga man and i cant play 2 games in a row as her, its painful, but feelsgoodman :P