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Yoshi

    Actions per minute

    what is this stat exactly showing inside dotabuff plus?
    Anyone willing to clarify? The higher the better? Does it matter at all?

    JungleMonkey

      no it's like golf, the lower the better.

      like if you finish the game with 400 actions it's worse than if you finished with only 8 actions..

      common sense

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      Yoshi

        I don't see the common sense in it that way honestly.
        Isn't it a factor of interacting in game, buying wards counts toward an action etc?

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        JungleMonkey

          When I'm at work and the boss asks me to do something, that something I can do in 69 steps or 13 steps. If it takes me 69 steps to get to the same end result (barring any difference in laziness or quality of performance), it can be seen as much more inefficient than doing it in 16 steps.

          But yeah I'm not sure if wards count, I'm not really sure about anything I've said so far.. I don't even work.

          efextoide

            because we are playing starcraft

            Trodlabundin

              It's APM, not ARP.

              Anyway, it calculates how many actions you make in a minute. castings spells or just clicking. If you are using autoclicker #Diablostyle #Hold_to_move you will automaticly get an absurd amount of APM, which in theory: is fake APM.

              Anyway, how much APM you have is irrelevant when you get over a certain point.

              I'd say a point between 100-120 would be normal. Anyway it doesn't really matter. It's more about what you're used to and how your body works. Tho I'm saying if you have 60 APM or lower I'd say you have some issues.

              Yoshi

                Thanks for clarifying back ' alive, appreciate it.
                If anyone has other input, he is welcome to share it

                Trodlabundin

                  If you have low APM you are either standing AFK as a support or not moving efficiently on the map.

                  MARLAN

                    Lower Effective APM = Worse player.

                    Higher Effective APM = Better player.

                    The higher your (effective) APM is, the better you are.

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                    .. But it's near impossible to measure what is "effective" APM. So really, this stat is worthless.

                    Yoshi

                      No I usually have the highest APM but i was starting to think it was bad, I'm around 150 more or less

                      Thanks Marlan for your input

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                      TripleSteal-

                        my apm is usually way lower

                        Trodlabundin

                          but thats cause uve got braindelay. Everyone gets braindelay when they drink.

                          Trodlabundin

                            It's also hero dependent. There's no way a Dazzle has same APM as a Tinker/Invoker. (Considering same player)

                            And effective APM was a nice input. I've watched irl friends at LAN just clicking as fast as possible and think they're good cause of it.

                            Socram

                              When watching other ppl play I often see them frantically clicking on the same fucking spot over and over to increase the APM.
                              Thing is, that's utterly pointless and can even decrease your performance because you're drawing attention away from things that are actually important.

                              TripleSteal-

                                ^have u played wc3 b4 dota2?

                                TripleSteal-

                                  also spam clicking is not counted as part of apm

                                  ehehe

                                    isnt it? go use dota_player_auto_repeat_right_mouse 1 and just hold right click ur apm will be like 1000

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                                    TripleSteal-

                                      @allison
                                      afair back in the days lawliepop posted that spamclick is not counted as part of apm displayed on dbuff, but my memory may fail me

                                      Yoshi

                                        spam clicking isnt in fact counter Socram :)

                                        Trodlabundin

                                          Nop, spamclicking does increase APM. If they believe otherwise, they are wrong. This means they have some shit to fix ^_*

                                          TripleSteal-

                                            i guess its my error then, and loli meant smthng else

                                            ehehe

                                              i remember sm1 made a thread on dotabuff asking why pros have such high apm in competitive games or something, and they use that command. honestly idk how they can play with it im not sure but i think it messes up with ur orb walking sometimes. i use it only to steal bounty runes from my mids at the start of the game 4Head

                                              TripleSteal-

                                                @allison
                                                today in the morning i woke up with the thought that i gotta find the way to use autoclicker for first bounty runes (no kappa), so how do I use this crap properly?

                                                ehehe

                                                  dota_player_auto_repeat_right_mouse 1 in console and hold right click on the rune spawn, then dota_player_auto_repeat_right_mouse 0 if u dont want it anymore

                                                  there is also a script to take runes (it does it instantly as they spawn) but doesnt work on reborn

                                                  TripleSteal-

                                                    im not a huge fan of scripts
                                                    thanks, ill try it out

                                                    Yoshi

                                                      joined a party, tought Triplesteal was in, entered game, realised is Triplekill

                                                      TripleSteal-

                                                        ill play tmrrw probably

                                                        Metallicize

                                                          i remember when i had dotabuff + i had games where i had 70 apm and games where i had 230 apm.
                                                          is this normal

                                                          me ooga team booga

                                                            just pick tinker and build 5 items with actives then you can jerk off about having 400 apm

                                                            Yoshi

                                                              It's not about jerking off, its about understanding the stat, if its useful or not to improve.
                                                              From what I read its not that important, and that was what i wanted to find out