Dude u don't even need any other items i just comes down to when u place ur ward. If you use it at the start u wont be able to do him for obv reasons, place it when u are low already. Also 14 Minutes only treads/aquila/pms ?u should at least have half of your yasha at that time & then rosh wont be a big problem at all.
if u play bots, u can even skip 1st and ult and get stats instead. level ward 3 times max., 2 level crit is ok. skip stout and qb get wb+tango first and then aquila, phase, mom, yasha. but asb timing of ur healing ward is important, cuz u can heal a great deal w active mom. u need ur ward in between mom cd, when u lose hp.
but if in real game and ur troubled w strong laners mb u want to ask a support to build a MoC and tell them right from the beginning u want to get the early rosh. then they even might get wards/smoke for u.
And mask of madness, did you not read the post? And I don't think you've done tosh recently if you think it's that easy. He takes a lot less dmg than before. And obviously I don't pop ward off the bat, I used it when low but even maxed it barely keeps your hp up.
I was playing bots just to try items. Needs to be done in a real game. I guess easiest way would be have a friend roll ursa.
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Apologies, even though i forgot to mention MoM in my post. But you are right, i forgot how hard they actually nerfed this guy and farming in general. I took one of my jugg games of 6.83 as an example where I had diffusual on top of the stuff mentioned above at 16 but ofc jugger & farming were waaaaay stronger.
So yeah, it's probably quite hard to do it solo without drawing too much attention. And if you consider the amount of bloodcykas rn this challange is actually a nightmare
You have to wait till you get really really low before you use the ward.
Omg I'm not trying to do this in a bot match its a challenge was only using bot match to practice
replace aquila with medallion, idk if you can still get it done by 14 mins though. gives you similar armour + mana regen and the benefit of -armour synergising with omnislash imo outweighs the drawback which is it's lacking stats.
matrice does have a point about dominator. if you get a wolf, that bonus damage is probably a similar dps boost to mask of madness, but dominator also gives you armour vs mom's damage amp, and you also get more value out of healing ward. get low on HP, let wolf tank, lifesteal back up, when wolf gets low, you start tanking, when you get low a second time, healing ward heals both, and then repeat.
Dominator would probably work, totally forgot about letting creeps tank it. For some reason I always do that on troll, never remember on anyone else. Troll can still rosh without too much trouble around 10 minutes with dominator.
No, you need to max fervor then rage, skip axes to do rosh. Pre nerf I was doing it like level 7 with just qb, phase and dominator with 2/0/4/1. Post nerf I only did it once in a bot match, I think I also had aquila and was like 9 and 4/0/4/1. You didn't used to need to dominate a creep but it was way easier. Now it's required.
I tried another bot match with jug and I just don't see how 14 minutes in a normal game will work solo.
I went dire jungle again (yes, safe lane farm is potentially higher, but jungle farm is more consistent). Started with stout shield, qb, tango. Grabbed rune, went to easy camp, clear it at 53, cleared it again. Level 2 now. That's a really fast level 2 that won't usually happen in a real game cus you won't get rune and people will flame you for killing the camp without stacking/pulling.
I got morbid mask next, then treads, then dominator, then medallion by 12:30. Pretty good rate. Dominated a wildwing with extra armor and went to rosh with a 0/4/2/0 +stats build. Dps calc said treads with agi was best dps and crit was best dps two, but only by a tiny bit over stats. 2 crit and rest stats was like a 5 dps difference over 4 crit. 1 crit was bigger difference, like 5 more, so I went 2.
I killed rosh around 14:15, just not enough dmg even spamming medallion and with a creep. But I stayed like full hp the whole time, very safe.
So the issues here, farm is not realistic for a normal game, though jug is still a capable jungler. Then I just don't see how you have the dmg to kill rosh without medallion also. I can try again at like ~8-9 minutes with just treads and dominator, but seems hard.
ofc its hard but i still think its doable. esp. if a support comes w u in a normal game. phase, aquila and mom is more than enough. lvl 9 should be enough as well. ur lane just has to go well i guess.
It's definitely doable with help, I was wondering solo. Before picking jug I'll ask if people are on board to try it. You could probably level 1 rosh with jug's ward if everyone rotates tank then gets healed same time.
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I got a challenge to kill rosh on jug by 14 mins. Is it even possible anymore with quelling blade nerf? I tried a bot match, got bounty rune, went jungle. At ~12 minutes I had mask of madness, treads, stout shield, qb and aquila. I had two in crit, max ward and a couple stats. I couldn't do him. I mean after my ward wore off I had to leave pit and wait for it to come off cooldown and I barely got him in before 14 mins. I just don't see how this is possible in a normal game without help. Maybe if I went medallion instead of aquila, I didn't think of that at the time.
Probably the quickest items to do him would be deso and vlads imo, major dmg and enough healing, but there's no way you can farm those by 14 minutes without getting like 4 or 5 kills. You're talking like 600 gpm by minute 14 to get boots, vlads and deso.
Obviously I can get helpers but it's quite hard to motivate pubs to take rosh until late when lanes are pushed in or after a big team wipe.