In your line up challenge it's all going to depend on execution. On paper team 2 wins due to the team fight potential. However if the other team execute better they could push with Jug and Lesh and stay away from big team fights. They can counter push decently against the team push form Team 2. You have Bristle to stand up front and tank damage forcing the other team to react. You have Void and Magnus to initiate and you have wd and lich ulits who compliment the initiation very well. I would go with team two.
My scenario is Bristle/Kotl safe (Bristle carry Kotl supplying mana) Viper (mek/tank) mid and Wd/Undy offlane vs pretty much any line up. You have almost unlimited mana from Kotl and Mana Boots on WD and Undy. WD can constantly heal thanks to mana regen and so can Undy. Bristle and tanky viper can just sit up front without fear of dying and endlessly push down the lanes. The only chance I see is to somehow completely destroy the lanes early or split push. But what lineup would come online fast enough to outpush that cancerous line up. I don't know...
laning should be safelane jugger with support silencer against lich bristle -->rape for dire
mid zeus vs magnus -> draw, slight win radiant
offlane undy+lesh vs void + wd rape for dire in terms of cs in tower but as long as they dont feed its ok
i see you lost and thats because of a fucked up laning and YOU WHINING ABOUT SUPPORT AGAINST UNDYING
that lane is lost regardless, you guys could've raped solo lesh both with lich+wd supporting bristle and bristle wouldve raped the whole game
Dire have only have Lich + WD ults to deal damage early because Void+BB need items to do stuff while radiant have Leshrac + Zeus + Undying and Silencer to prevent dire's wombo combo with ultimates. Or maybe it's just me favouring fotm heroes lol
yo black, tough game man.
my main thought is to just take out that silencer. if you guys cant, then youll really have a hard time.
What I told my team in the end was - if we were Navi we could somehow pull it off :p
The thing with wombo combo is, in-spite of opponent's advantage if you can execute it, you can still get a team wipe.
On a side note, I picked last and chose Faceless Void since enemy has Juggernaut.
I could have gone Gyrocopter to fight against Undying... but still settled on Void
Who would you have picked as a more suitable carry who can win the game?
I'm thinking it would have to be "semi-carry" heroes with strong laning and mid game (i.e. Razor?)
man a naix bomb on that silencer would ve been nice, or a pa bkb, just remove silencer on the enemy lineup and u guys steamroll them easy.
All these indirect whining threads beating around the bush by using questions to veer it so you can whine without actually starting the whine.
"The thing with wombo combo is, in-spite of opponent's advantage if you can execute it, you can still get a team wipe."
The thing is when you get divine rapier every game, in-spite of the possibility you might lose it, if you can execute it well it gives you a huge power boost that can let you wipe teams.
^ It's not whining. I'm serious about the wombo combo. I.e. Navi vs Vega. That was a lost game for them, but Dendi double RP into Gyro and Wyvern Ult was $$$$$
P.S. And btw, I think you are the one beating around the bush. Your post didn't actually contribute anything to the topic. You're just here as my hater. Well think again. This was a Party Ranked Match and I'm not really pushing for my Party MMR. I'm just here to learn how could I have picked a better hero. Coz given the same scenario in solo queue, I might have picked Void again.
Bump. Any more suggestions on who would have been a better pick than Void?
PA and Lifestealer were recommended...
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Post a lineup/draft and comment on who do you think will win and why?
Silencer + Undying + Juggernaut + Leshrac + Zeus
vs
Faceless Void + Witch Doctor + Lich + Magnus + Bristleback