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Best supports to get good at? in General Discussion
Gout Mawien

    Hi, I've been playing Dota 2 for a couple months and I've really loved the support role. I've played most supports and I enjoy most of them pretty well. However, over the last couple games I've realized that for me each support really works best when it complements the team well, as I keep getting this feeling that supports have to fit a certain niche in the team composition or it just does not work as effectively. If the support does not synergize well with their team, it isn't ideal.

    So I came here to ask if there are any support heroes that are very versatile or are very destructive to other teams if played correctly. Basically anything that works with almost any team or a hero that can work wonders for your team if played well (high skillcap = high reward).

    Trodlabundin

      earthshaker, swm, spirit breaker

      Sup m8

        Earthshaker, practice fissure blocks and he is really good

        Serpent

          No idea.

          2983

            Lich if enemy picks Meepo.
            Lion if enemy picks Terrorblade.
            SD if your teammate in lane is Mirana or Kunkka.
            Ancient Apparition if you're trilaning and aiming for first blood.
            Veno if enemy picks TA.
            Veno possibly if enemy picks Pudge.
            Earthshaker if enemy picks PL or Undying or Brood.
            Venge if enemy picks Void or Batrider.
            Dazzle if enemy picks Legion Commander or if you have a Legion Commander on your team.
            Shadow Demon if enemy picks Omni.

            I'm sure there are others.

            PINGU NIDEPIGU

              ^he's not asking abt counterpicking.
              he wants good team synergy like aa/wd into chrono or something similar

              2983

                It's so much easier to counterpick the enemy in terms of support because you have no idea which heroes your team is going to pick or even which lanes they plan on going to if you play solo queue. So I pick SD ... well guess what, my Mirana teammate wants to solo offlane.

                He's Panicking

                  I think Rhasta (Shadow Shaman) is a really well rounded support that offers plenty throughout games that are long or short. Good nuke early for harass and wave clear/farm. 2 great dissables that scale really well and an ult that is super for tower pushing or team fighting or even roshing/ Aghs upgrade really good too.

                  Think Rubick and Witch doc have really good skill sets too, lots of fun to play. Current meta favouring ES, Veno, AA and the like.

                  Fetim (TAR DBOI)

                    Omni is a great starting point for support, his abilities work well with and against most heroes, he doesn't need many items that aren't support items and he kind of looks like Chuck Norris. Also if you can learn to play a kotl that doesn't snake farm from carries, you will go far.

                    Fakovnik

                      Jakiro it is

                      Dunning-Kruger-Doto

                        You generally want to pick supports that provide lane presence and do not fall off lategame.

                        The lanepresence is important, so you do not lose safelane. Earthshaker for example is a great support and often picked in competitive dota. But if your safelane farmer is spectre, and you have a jungler, you have lost 1 lane allready. The earthshaker can only sit behind the spectre and do nothing. He will rely on ganks and need his blink to get effective.

                        If you plan on buying wards etc. es is a horrible solo support.

                        Since pubgames are often not objective oriented, you do not want to have support that falls of hard. Heros that get useless beyond min 35 are not fav. in the current meta, esp in pubgames.

                        Warlock, Omni, Lich, Lion, Silencer, AA, Rhasta, Veno, Rubick (not so good on lane) are really good supports, that excell through all stages of the game.

                        cdt

                          ^ this

                          Also, read these

                          http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=282801741

                          http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-strategy/465496-the-art-of-support-part-2

                          The second mentions what the author calls three types of supports: Defensive, Aggressive and Greedy. You should take this into consideration when picking, eg what your pick wants to accomplish.

                          HKNST (mode: Kahvipannu :-))

                            Earth Spirit.
                            High skillcap, highly rewarding, fits any setup, doesn't rely on items, beast from early to late game.

                            waku waku

                              dazzie is sehr gut mmmm

                              صدق86

                                My experience with supports

                                Wisp: most fun by far
                                Lich: if you are brain damaged (also good in 1v3 offlane)
                                Leshrac: for pushing

                                Flat is Justice!

                                  If u are new and unsure what other heroes do - OGRE MAGI is a great support to have ( Tanky + Useful throughout the game)
                                  or WARLOCK (Heals + Lockdown/Push) or SAND KING(Lockdown + escape kinda + Burst)
                                  Because playing support is much more than the hero you choose
                                  you need to know - Warding, Counter warding, positioning for support (throwing stuns to save), ganking and stacking

                                  Other heroes you can consider if you are new:
                                  Lion - (Lockdown + Burst)
                                  Shadow Shaman - (Push + Lockdown) Note: lvl 1 shackle then max hex
                                  Jakiro - (Push + kinda lockdown) Note: Shitty casting animation
                                  Skywrath - (Burst) Powerful nukes + silence
                                  Crystal Maiden - (kinda lockdown + aura + BOOBS)

                                  I wont recommend earth shaker for newbies

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                                  Dire Wolf

                                    Earth shaker, sand king, ogre magi, lich, lion. those guys work on any team.

                                    Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                      Get better at heroes who have a bad laning presence (either because they are melee or they just don't have useful spells for laning) and heroes that are very good at saving allies. A timely Disruption, Shallow Grave or even a Nightmare can turn a teamfight.

                                      THICC BABY SHUM

                                        void - best support best carry best mid best offlaner best jungler best roaming hero pick and win

                                        c4L-

                                          Shadow Demon works well. Visage can be annoying with timed familiar stuns. Boss Magi is a baller in this patch.

                                          motley

                                            io. if you can master this hero then you can "carry" your carry to victory

                                            صدق86

                                              Or at least "carry" him onto a cliff ^

                                              Linda | DotaExchange

                                                Venge, alche, sky.

                                                THICC BABY SHUM

                                                  wraight king ogre and earth shaker opopop