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General Discussion[Discussion] Is Doom Fair?

[Discussion] Is Doom Fair? in General Discussion
Vandal

    No, Doom isn't fair.

    Mushu

      Close ? :D

      eXcel

        Is sleeping in the same bed as someone and catching crabs fair?

        Trodlabundin

          IS VANDAL FAIR? NO, VANDAL IS NOT FAIR. NERF VOLVO DISBAND PL0X

          Wink

            He has a single target FUCK YOU spell, and then he is a bellow average carry after that. dont let him farm and hes worthless

            iphone....wow

              He's fair actually (as long u can harras his farm)
              He's bad base armor, just gank it early. :D

              Seoulmate

                http://dotabuff.com/matches/568428457
                used my q on a jungle to farm
                killed doom
                won game

                Zahard

                  doom is badass

                  Totentanz to The King: M ...

                    Dunno about Doom but Invoker is the most unfair shit ever. Maybe even worse than 6.79 ES.

                    Wink

                      ^not even close to 6.79 ES, at least invoker is squishy

                      Totentanz to The King: M ...

                        "squishy" When he is running around with 522 speed.

                        Wink

                          Ever heard of CC?

                          Quick maffs

                            No mana for cc dude

                            ....

                            eXcel

                              I was happy that Invoker got a buff because he's my favourite hero, but I love Exort Invoker and in the current patch there is no point in not playing max wex. It's just borderline broke.

                              Sigma v Alliance last night kinda showed that. S4 was fucking nuts.

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                              Dire Wolf

                                6 slotted doom can take pretty much any carry, assuming he gets the doom off, removes said carry or a utility from an entire team fight making the end game seem unfair. But faceless void can neutralize an entire team for ~6 seconds and kill multiple of them in that period. Is he unfair? It just is what it is, you shouldn't be letting the game reach that point if you want to win.

                                eXcel

                                  Dota is such that almost everything has a counter. Find it, deal with it. If you're smart with an illusion hero you can quite often bait out a Doom, a simple Linken's also can work wonders.

                                  Quick maffs

                                    Every 2 games a invoker player

                                    #FreeSampson

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                                    Wink

                                      ^Was sampson banned?

                                      Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                        So ES is balanced as well? Because you know, you can CC him.

                                        Edit: And yes, no mana for CC bro.

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                                        Quick maffs

                                          He is banned, he is posting is some kind of smurf account

                                          He probably deserves to be banned now that i think about it, the guy is an asshole

                                          Wink

                                            es was op because he could insta initiate and silence + kill 5 heroes at once on his own. He is difficult to gank and is generally tanky.

                                            QW Invoker on the other hand needs items to get a proper initiation or gank happening, he is squishy with an unreliable escape (invis is easy to counter), he is countered by good positioning, it's not like he will land tornado emp on everyone unless they make a mistake. He is easy to gank early game, and needs a good start to be useful.

                                            Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                              And how can you possibly have a bad start if your 100 mana spell takes away half HP of the other guy? 5 ganks in 5 minutes? Maybe. But him not being as OP as ES doesn't mean he is balanced either. He is the best hero this patch imo, close to Ember and Lycan.

                                              Zahard

                                                still playing exort.
                                                wex2boring

                                                eXcel

                                                  ^^ that's how I roll. I've literally played only a handful of wex games, they're almost too ez.

                                                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/583664702 My last game was a wex game though
                                                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/581978065 Quas exort the game before that to make the game a little more fun :)

                                                  mongoloid

                                                    Invoker is fairly balanced for the part of EMP buff, but the only broken part about it is you are literally a rikimaru that moves at 5000 ms that will facerape you if you are alone.

                                                    That aside, ember spirit is much more broken then invoker in pubs tbh, alongside with tb and phoenix

                                                    Fay

                                                      Doom is lucifer, he is fairer than Jesus

                                                      Seoulmate

                                                        Exort invoker is the most entertaining to me. Only done one game of wex voker before

                                                        http://dotabuff.com/matches/580965027 my one wex game actually didn't go too bad. carried the whole team
                                                        http://dotabuff.com/matches/577885850 but exort invoker is so much more entertaining I don't know what to do D:

                                                        Human

                                                          how a hero who counters everything can be fair

                                                          Seoulmate

                                                            ^^^
                                                            Orchid him. And in most pubs if you play doom, ult the invoker and he will just run around feeling useless lol

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                                                            Gustaphos

                                                              Doom is not op. Otherwise everyone would choose him and be 100% problem is he needs farm. Gank him a bunch and counter him by killing him in jungle or lane early? Next question?

                                                              Vandal

                                                                "gank doom" hahaha just place 1 ward problem solved. I'll run back and heal while you waste your XP/GPM. I needed a heal anyway.

                                                                Gustaphos

                                                                  Well prove me wrong and use doom 24/7 365 please? I would like to know how to get a 100% win rate with doom.

                                                                  Faded

                                                                    look at all the posts that disagree with you

                                                                    wow much delusional. very win.

                                                                    Gustaphos

                                                                      I think Vandal needs to go on your weed diet Sirius lee and not worry about doom so much ;)