1 : good item on PA, later upgrade into abusal.
2 : if not having good farm, altought drums can be made into literary every build. ( drums + phase and dominator pa is a bit force to recon )
3 : could work, but not so sure, there are way better orb effects you could make ( imo mjol should be must if going vs illusion based carry, although bf can do the same against them )
4 : Yes
5 : No, no, no. You have blink? You have slow?
6 : Amplify is good, although you don't need that much mana regen ( in certain lineup can be good )
7 : Why not.
You've listed a bunch of situational shit. Honestly, PA doesn't need that much damage to be effective because of her huge mark up on the damage for her ult. If you go poor mans -> phase boots -> aquila -> drums -> bkb It's almost guaranteed a solo kill on supports. You can then probably pick up a basher in the final slot and you're good to go. Sell the poor mans for something bigger later on, same with aquila. BF is only nice on her if you wanna take a long game and farm but she doesn't actually need it as much as people think.
PAs blink means she doesn't REALLY need attack speed anyway, so mael isn't that fantastic.
satanic is amazing on her for late game
but sometimes you can go desolator + vlad for pure dmg
I usually go bfury if can, but regardless phase > drum > helm > bkb > (sny/satanic/vlads)
Here is a big issue right here, a lot of.....not so skilled players are trying to do "unconventional" things. Until you know the hero/game so well that you can get away with doing things that go against how a hero is played then don't do it. Grasp the core concepts of a hero first and find out your limitations with it then start to experiment with item builds and roles.
...my two cents
badger pa is my most played hero(or my main as you can call it) :D
also i was thinking of vlads deso. Though that means that the bkb will be made more later. Deso and vlads means 6k gold. however i can make it cheaper if i replace deso with basher thats 2k cheaper. Coupled with phase drums and aquilla it could work.
so i will try basher with cheap items, after that vlads and deso and lastly cheap items and bkb rush. I cant wait to see which is better.
^^^
Your main has 21 games played. Takes a while to get a full grasp of a hero like Sampson's BH or Satellizer's Mayonnaise
Drum after phase; then build whatever is best for your situation (though usually BKB is the best choice). The stats and movespeed alone are enough to justify buying it, never mind the aura.
Battlefury is crap, the only thing that separates you and another hard carry is the ability to get early kills; spending that early game farming an item that helps you farm means you might as well play an Anti-Mage or something.
I just tried armlet on PA. Aaaaaand it's crap... Srsly tho, now that i think throughly bf is a better pick even tho it is more expensive. I guess that if i dont manage to make it in 15 mins i can switch to basher. But no way armlet works(well at least for my gameplay). It's like i am hitting with nothing. Like the dmg is non existent.
Isnt armlet 40 damage even for non strenght heroes ? 40 damage + atack speed for 2600 gold
Yeah no armlet and no orchid. We had some other guy post about PA and using orchid for ganking. Doesn't work well. Armlet is poopy and better items for dmg/IAS like ur maelstrom choice there.
talking about NON CONVENTIONAL PA
buy 1 boots (whichever u prefer) and 1 bkb and 4 Talisman of Evasion.
if you have omni, buy 1 boots 5 Talisman.
max 3rd skill first.
GG
Brown boots -> Vanguard -> Phase -> Basher. If they have lots of disables, consider getting BKB before basher. That's the best build IMO.
PA scales really poorly into lategame since by then any decent enemy team will have either a MKB or a sheepstick, or both. Therefore, the most effective way to play her is as a ganker/mid-game carry, focusing on shutting down the enemy team rather than outfarming the enemy carry (pretty much like Nightstalker).
Things to consider:
1. Get vanguard before 10 mins in if possible, 12 mins deadline. After that you'll just waste money because it doesn't scale well.
2. By the time you have your vanguard you should be around lvl 8, and your skillbuild should be 4-1-2-1. We rush the dagger because allows you to last hit and gives you an amazing slow to take down enemies. Blur helps you ganking and makes you take less damage.
3. You won't build yourself as a hard carry, so you won't play as a hard carry but as a ganker/mid-game carry. Once your vanguard is up, start ganking other lanes. Buy some smoke, tell your allies that you're gonna roam, and start taking down foes. Focus on lonely supports, junglers or squishy enemy carries. Ask your teammates for stuns, slows, etc.
As long as you do MKB always first then ya mb maelstrom and basher.
Try a medallion of courage too some day.
Here's the thing: PA sucks lategame compared to true hard carries. She can't use her slow nor her blink on bkb'd enemies, so she can't burst down carries when they have an ok farm, which means that your team will lose the teamfight giving them gold advantage, which they'll use to get an mkb and then you'll be useless.
That being said, maelstrom is a crappy item on her. Why? Because maelstrom is meant to farm/push, and as I stated before, you won't win the farming race against a true hard carry.
so i guess ill just rush basher as usual.
IMO pa seems kind of weak currently. I mean you either own or get owned(kinda like morphling). If i wouldve been icefrog i wouldve reworked the passive to give her some dmg or cleave at least.
http://dotabuff.com/heroes/phantom-assassin/items
Yeah basher/bkb is the wtg according to the monthly stats on her for win% rate on items.
MOC doesn't look that good but take into account its an early game item and people usually sell it once they farm enough for mid/late game.
Basher has a 60% win rate and bkb is 57% win rate. Battlefury is a little lower with 55%. HOTD is below 50% and funny enough, vlads is at 56% so maybe vlads is a more viable option over HOTD? It at least provides some health/mana regen if you skip the battle fury.
AC is looking good around 81% to top it all off.
Yeah PA is weak compared to other 3 star carries. Shes @ 43% win for the month. Maybe at least an upgrade on dagger dmg, slow % or duration or something... maybe blink strike would be better if there were no creeps around you could blink in an area like an anti mage idk.
I think people play her wrong. Imo she's good in lane with another nuker/disabler support because if you wear down anyone she can blink to them to finish them off. From there she has to snowball. If you play passively in lane and just try to out farm your opponent you will lose but sadly going battlefury first encourages this. She should almost be played like a ganker only stays in the lane.
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Even though bf is considered core on PA many many times on pub games you wont have it in 15 mins, because of various reasons. So what can be built instead of bf to be effective in teamfights?
So far i have a list of items
1. Basher - doesnt give the same dmg and regen but its 2k chaper and it gives you some str and the bash. If you manage to get a 7 min midas(which IMO should be made if youre going to farm unintrerupted the basher can be obtained faster)
2. Aquilla and drums - they give you some stats and dmg but they dont have that much of an impact(for PA that it is)(also correct me if i am wrong)
3. Maelstrom - now this is actually interesting. Not only that it gives you some dmg and attack speed but it also helps farm easier. The only con that i see is the wasted att speed bonus(most of the times mael is good for te heroes that lack attack speed like str heroes or int). IMO not worth to upgrade it in mjolnir
4. Armlet - a decent pick as it gives you att speed dmg amd str. The only problem.is the degen(can be solved with hotd)
5. Shadow Blade - idk if it could work. Mb if youre mid and gankig?
6. Orchid - att speed dmg and mana regen. Also the 30% dmg amplify. But its more expensive than bf. Maybe it could work with 1 or 2 cheaper items made before(like an aquilla or drums)
7. Yasha - it only gives you stats and movement speed. Could be later made into manta for pushing.