i can see the point if it was 5k matched with 4k players, but there's probably little to no difference between 1k and 2k, they're equally bad.
also you dont get muted after 1 report, it takes multiple over a course of several games.
regarding the mute problem i already knew that.
but i always play with 2k players and trust me there is a difference. like there is a diference from 3k to 4k fro example.
i assume everyone at 2k cant even build the correct items or skills on their heroes, it's not like there's any individual skill either, after all you're at 2k mmr, everyone just clowns about. everyone is equally crap.
let me give you an insight on kow 2k is
they know what items to build
they know what skills to get
they fail hard at coordinating
they try to apply competitive strategies and fail hard
flamefest
they dont know how to counter easy heroes(like ursa, drow etc)
oh really. you kept level 1 warcry (an aoe armour skill) against bristleback and death prophet, two huge sources of aoe physical damage.
void maxed time lock by 9, WD tries to get shadow blade and his first maxe skill is maledict at 11.
no comment on skeleton king.
treads on DP.
cba watching the game but i wonder how many ancient or hard camps you stacked to farm later?
anyways when you're paired against retards its much easier to win games solo, try that some time.
I once had a player ( inside of 3 stack , in my team ) which had 2.1 k, while others had around 3.9 ~ 4.0 k. So don't talk about 1k mmr difference, there are a lot of bigger bulshit then that.
^it wouldve been nothing wrong if it was a stack. But all the players were solo. That's what bugged me more.
Maybe, but still, heck big difference same as yours. I really wonder how players in 1k mmr plays. Valve ned toupdate this shit, and stop updating blody cosmetics
Look Im pretty new to dota 2 but I played dota 1 so I know whats happening. To see some proper trench tier dota watch this, Its good for a chuckle. We all started somewhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqKrnmLTQIQ&list=UUZsM8MOy0VC9blj_wBkbo-g
If anyone was wondering what happens in 1-2k mmr, a good example is that lunas max glaives first. It's sad to watch every time.
omg i got matched with a player 1k below me omg wahhhhhh ...... bro in 5k mmr we get people with 3k mmr.... now thats a difference
Never got 1k diffrence unless I played with a stack and then ususally the good player told the bad one what to do and it worked somehow. the diffrence in skill is lower the higher you go so at 1-2k its the biggest diffrence you get.
i was watching monkeys stream the other day and he was 5.9k his team was like 4.6k 4.2k 3.9k 4.8k lol
@کے Road to 2k
plees youre not 5k, you just smurfed your way up there and are getting stomped since then... And now you meet 3k people because the only way for you to win a ranked game is to play on australian servers.
yes i made a smurf account? no i havnt been stomped at all ive actually gone up 300 since calibration and i live in Aus why wouldnt i play on AU lol my main account is exact same mmr so smurfing really doesnt do shit imo.... just wanted see wat all the fuss was about
U seem mad bro? did ur smurf account fail :(?
@Androgynous
I max Time Lock by 7, I don't see what's wrong with maxing it by 9.
@raspharus
Now now holding valve accountable for this is probably too much. Just like players above 5k are often matched with players 1k below them, players below 1.5k are probably so uncommon that players around 2k and above are forced to be matched with them.
geez i never thought that the dota community can be so elitist at times XD. Don't forget that i am playing dota 2 since last year january and of course that i am not on the same level with all the veteran players. That doesnt mean you need to bash me.
it just seemed unnatural to me(because i haven't encountered this situation b4) to be matched with a dude that has a mmr 1k beneath the team.
@کے Road to 2k
then why did you play all your games @ eu west except the last few? how come you lost 9/17 ranked games on eu west and still claim to have improved 300 rating?
http://dotabuff.com/matches/546033380
http://dotabuff.com/matches/526911428
http://dotabuff.com/matches/526977332
No stomps nono my bad
I dont need to smurf since im actually 5k. The probelm is i have to deal with trench teir players like you in my games
کے Road to 2k is actually currently in a 5k bracket. Does he really deserve to be there? Who knows as he will never post from his main and has since set his account to not share stats so no one is able to gauge where he sits....also a VAC bans on both your accounts kinda shows what kinda player you are (both your accounts are banned so this wasn't a 1 time offense).
The last recorded rating that you received on your main was 3822.
Getting to a 5K rating account isn't so hard. It is however a lot harder if you are by default a 2k player. Remaking an account might see you get to about 3.8-4K rating but not much higher and unless you improve rapidly you will not go up but down.
Raspharus, if you are actually willing to learn you can run with me from time to time. As long as you are willing to listen and learn I can at least help you improve your game a little bit in the interim while you adjust to playing at a slightly higher level than you're used to.
@Androgynous
I max Time Lock by 7, I don't see what's wrong with maxing it by 9.
If you don't see what's wrong with maxing it by 9, why are you maxing it by 7 then. Getting TL maxed on FV is like maxing Deso on Spectre. Even if you are behind it is still the best skill to go because it'll help you get kills. If you are ahead, you get further. If you are behind, it helps you comeback with kills.
If you go 2-1-2 by 5 that's still TL maxed by 8, but there's no reason to get the 4th level of TL by level 9 by going 1-3-4-1 (or any mixture of X-Y-4-1 where X + Y = 4).
When you're behind that extra damage from TL adds up and definitely makes a difference, and certainly a bigger one than a 5% chance to dodge damage when your max HP isn't even 1000.
The effects of extra levels in backtrack early on are negligible in increasing Void's survivability, so they're not worth getting past 1 point, in the same way you max out Dispersion last on Spectre, both spells are % based so are shit at low values.
And why's this turned into a smurf / MMR-abusing thread.
Wow huge difference in skills. I've never seen anyone on my friend list below 1800 but yeah there is a difference between him and me around 3.2k now.
I think you guys have an overinflated ego thinking there is no difference between 1-3k people. Really far from the truth.
2145 is pretty near bottom. I mean expect to play with 1k tier if there's like only 500 players in the trench.
@ Chicken dong
Damnit quit changing your name :(
According to valve 25% of people are from 0-1500 mmr which can't be 500 players lol.
1k mmr diff between the max and min mmr player among the 10, is actually quite common (1 in 5 game a least).
I can say that for the 3.5k range.
@Androgynous
But there are also people who opt for more levels of time walk early, which has both offensive and defensive merits. I don't see anything wrong with that.
@op
It's the same as 4k players who get matched against me. Just different ends of the spectrum.
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beneath the fact that we lost horribly, srsly what the heck? Isnt this too broken? i mean i am sittin at 2145 rating but still... 1k difference? Nevertheless he was also the capt.
EDIT: nice now i noticed that he also reported me and i am muted. I remember he said that he will report me because he ran into the tower and fed first blood.