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General DiscussionWhy do Safe to leave games count!?!?!

Why do Safe to leave games count!?!?! in General Discussion
mike374040

    They are showing up on my dotabuff page. In these games i just throw cuz they dont count... wtf? I thought no stats recorded... i swear it has lowered my w/l ratio by like .5

    sano

      That's terrible. We'll contact Jason to quickly fix that issue.

      Best regards,
      The Dotabuff staff

      [Lk].Zano

        To balance the games which are counted by DotaBuff, but not by the Dota2 game.

        http://dotabuff.com/matches/385511281 Like this one, which does not even appear in the game's list.

        Manobo

          Since they made low priority so fucking god awful. They should really make any game where someone left voluntarily automatic low priority and make the game not count regardless if it was after or before first blood.

          Androgynous

            "safe to leave" is different to "no stats recorded". all games that have no stats recorded are safe to leave, but not all safe to leave games will record stats.

            a game can be safe to leave yet stats will still be recorded if first blood has already been drawn, meaning you can't get someone else to abandon in an attempt to prevent your MMR dropping.

            dotabuff's algorithm for detecting games that don't count isn't 100% accurate, but looking at your past few games, i'd assume none of them had someone abandon before kills were given, from looking at their duration. my assumption is that someone left when the game was already well in full swing.

            here's a match that doesn't count
            http://dotabuff.com/matches/520972247
            note that it says the game doesn't count if someone leaves "very early", not just at any point in the game.

            Androgynous

              ill give you an example of a game that would be considered safe to leave, you tell me whether you think it should count or not.

              game lasts 90 minutes
              one team loses a teamfight and get mega creeps because of it
              one player on the losing team abandons before the ancient falls
              game is safe to leave
              the rest of his team can leave the game without being receiving abandonment penalties

              does this mean the game should not be recorded because it was safe to leave?