General DiscussionNo such thing as ELO hell

not including my 21-3 game as puck which i didnt need my teammates ive had nothing but crap team comps/players this one game thats about to end they picked carry omniknight, my PA game, lifestealer game and now my latest puck game that is almost over all fucking were unfair

look at my last 4 games and tell me there is no one with elo hell atleast for a certain amount of time. I don't know how i get matched up with these players. The only time the match favored me i didnt fuckin need em anyway.

I see what you're saying man but I guess its just about winning the "balanced" games and doing your best in the "unfair" ones. And there will always be games where you will steamroll with the enemy team having feeders. A lot of people on that thread are saying how in the long run (whatever # of games that is), everything balances out

A lot of other information I wanted for this "Social experiment"

Like, is he playing mid every game??
What is his plan of attack every time? Is he going kill potential like Storm, Slark, Timbersaw, Mirana?
Can he do the same thing as he did with just support heroes?
How many times has he gotten ill-minded players and throwers?

Cause the dota system is pretty much the same system a lot of games have. I guess in a way, if you pick a tempo controlling mid hero and you are going against the other mid hero, its kind of like starcraft in a way. Its about momentum and amount of resources gathered trying to "outlane" the other player. But at the same time too, he is an actual 5k player. Some people might a 4k player stuck in 3k. Ive seen 5 players play like 4k and 4k players play like 3k and so on. Not everyone is also a carry or a mid player because they don't like the intensive style of that role. Maybe they like jungling, supporting, or offlaning against a trilane. Is it possible for them to get out of it just like someone who is a good mid/carry player? Boosting it really only seems neccesary if you play selfishisly as a mid game hero.

There are 10 players in a game. If you are as good as you think you are the odds stack in your favour as you have a 4/9 chance of having a retard vs a 5/9 chance on the other team.

So Alation, if you are not moving anywhere, you are pretty much where you should be. Maybe you could be 3-400 MMR higher and not have too much trouble, but if you were a large amount higher, say +1K you should be so significantly stronger than you can hurt the opponents so badly that even your rubbish team mates can win

@Hael

Yeah he played mid mostly but also played carry/offlane. One of the PD members compiled Juice's posts and other helpful posts related to the things you mentioned (his mindset, planning, etc.).