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General DiscussionLayana and CM

Layana and CM in General Discussion
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    I really like playing TA, and i would like to get some help from people who know what they are doing.

    My item progression is;
    Bottle rush build
    bottle
    brown boots
    magic wand
    phase boots
    blink dagger
    yasha
    deso
    manta
    heart/other defensive item

    my skill build is;
    q
    e
    q
    w
    q
    r
    q
    w
    w
    w
    e
    e
    e
    r
    stat
    r
    stats

    Is this good?

    Also on the topic of CM, i really like playing her, but i always play her with a friend and we do the Jugg CM lane combo. And we snowball really hard, so i don't know what item progression to do with her. I get wards through out the game, and buy the courior, i get tranquils, drums, SB, and something stupid, because that is how hard we snowball.

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      http://dotabuff.com/matches/523546371
      this is my most recent TA game, it was fun.

      posting this because it might tell you some things i didn't

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        putting an extra put in psi can be situational, same thing for starting with psi/refraction.

        ive had more success with her going phase-drums-bkb-more dps (just gives more overall survivablity/damage with less mobility) but the two can be interchangable based on if ur snowballing or not and lineups

        BoJack

          try going drums > deso/bkb instead of yasha ++ midas is good most of the time if lane is ez

          BoJack

            also shadowblade can work very well, havend tried it but ive seen many people doing very well with it.

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              @atum and @trash, ok, ill try getting drums in a bot match, and i only get bkb if magic damage or disables are an issue, i don't get them on carries that need them every game if it isn't necessary.

              Zenoth

                Your skill build is fine. Sometimes you want psi blades over refract at level 1 if you get the better block for lane control from high ground.

                Blink should be a situational item against squishies that hang behind like Zeus or Rhasta who need to be burst down fast. Otherwise Desolator is almost always the better first item.

                Drums/Yasha first is also situationally good against heroes like Dark Seer and Bat who will easily break Refraction.

                SnY is an excellent item if you're snowballing alot early.

                Daed/Mkb is often more useful than survival items because TA likes raw damage alot and has decent survivability usually anyway. Taking potshots by denying a dying wave can often down supports to half hp.

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                  I just played a bot match, mid against a viper, did bottle rush>bottle>brown boots>midas>phase>drum>deso and we won the game by this point, it was good. i think i will do that build forever, thx for the help.