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Abyssal blade in phantom lancer in General Discussion
gK

    Hi guys, so whenever some one talks about pl I aways remember this guy: http://dotabuff.com/players/51823648/matches?hero=phantom-lancer&game_mode=&match_type=real

    What I cant understand is why he uses basher and abyssal in almost all games, can some one explain this? He has Almost 70% wr with pl so am I missing something, wasn´t this item deemed worthless in pl or something.

    epsik-kun

      Why not? Even with a horde of illusions, PL is an agility melee carry with insane agi per lvl. He will have enough of attack speed to make Basher scary.

      mandub

        abyssal lets you manfight other carries easier

        Weeb Trash

          its a situaltional item, dont get it as a core, but if youre up agains something like a gyro which can kill you and all your illusions with ease, then get it to shut him down.

          the upsides such as damage and bashes dont apply to illusions unfortunately so not really worth it most the time

          whoji

            it is his last item.
            before abyssal. he already has 5 big items.

            he plays pl quite standard. nothing novel. boring as hell.

            Wink

              No, damage and bash dont benefit illusions, which are his main source of damage and scariness. heart, bfly, bot, manta, diffusal. Your last item is one of the following: aegis, gem, second heart, second bfly, s&y, or radiance.

              daggius

                Abyssal is the most expensive item you can buy. because of this, even if it is not the "most efficient" item for this hero, Abyssal always gives you the best (Item Price/Item Slot) ratio when you are trying to max out your slots

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                Fay

                  abyssal is the ultimate item for any meele carry, i think it's pretty normal building it on PL
                  it's like building schyte of vyse to disable on a carry like ursa, but this one goes through magic immunity and has less duration

                  The other option is MKB because illusion benefit to this,
                  but in this condition do you think it's logical to build MKB instead of abyssal blade?
                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/260313535
                  i made a bad move here by choosing butterfly instead of BKB and abyssal earlier
                  this delay the game for over 20 minutes and many lifes of my teammate
                  even in this game, building 2nd heart is bad idea

                  crimsonSoldier

                    He didn't win because of basher, the reason he won is that he gets 5-slotted with the 5 core PL items (heart, bf, boT, diff, manta) by 30 minutes.

                    He could pick Shivas guard or Rod of Atos as 6th item and still win easily.