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General Discussionbeing blue or pink = auto lose on solo mm

being blue or pink = auto lose on solo mm in General Discussion
M-King

    i observed this on my last 50 games after the patch why they had to ruin the solo mm it was good when it first came. now all i found is 4000 rating braindeads.

    King of Low Prio

      maybe you just suck

      succuba

        Blue & Pink have the highest MMR on their team.

        Hassan

          ^ Not true.

          succuba

            Check games of any known player who has high MMR, you'll see a clear pattern.

            Totentanz to The King: M ...

              Lan amk o zaman her mavi/pembe olan kaybeder. Ne mal bir muhabbet.

              Dev

                I've been observing that pattern. It's generally true when there's no stack although there are some unusual cases that it's not arranged that way. When there are parties, it also doesnt conform to that pattern. Maybe the engine takes the avg MMR of the party then add a constant to it or whatever, I don't really know.

                But usually, it's true. Really sucks when volvo puts you as blue/pink all the time.

                King of Low Prio

                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/444330731

                  yup yup

                  the SF in my game had the highest MM when he goes 0-3 in like 4mins to a offlane BH

                  succuba

                    Forgot to mention, it only applies to solo queue when stacks are not present.

                    Direct quote from dev dota:

                    Hassan

                      ^ Where does he say anything about MMR? That just means that they most likely use some kind of ordering but not necessarily by MMR.

                      M-King

                        dude seriously i find 4700 friend on solo mm when i had 5300 rating believe me

                        succuba

                          Once again, check games of any known player who has high MMR, you'll see a clear pattern.

                          King of Low Prio

                            It is only a pattern if it is consistent

                            Vandal

                              @sampson
                              SF probably loses against solo BH without any support (detection) if he's not mid. The long stretches on either side lane serve BH well. At the very least, BH will be able to get some last hits and all XP.

                              Also, what does "consistent" mean?

                              Hassan

                                I have seen quite a few counter-examples but I can't say for sure there are no stacks in each of them.

                                M-King

                                  last game i was purple ofc it was an easy win

                                  King of Low Prio

                                    @vandal

                                    I am well aware that BH should win that match BUT that is why you do not put yourself in that matchup. At the very least you buy sentries and they pay for themselves in less that 1min. Offlane BH should really never be getting solo kills until after lv 6 unless you fuck up badly..............wait I take that back that is not just fucking up that is a complete lack of basic game knowledge.....

                                    Dev

                                      @sampson
                                      just because a guy didnt do well in one game means he's worse than you?

                                      So far i've only encountered one counter example: I met HANNAH_MONTANA and since I have him added on my other account, I knew
                                      that he's below 5000 MMR, but he was pink while I was a spot below. I asked him what his MMR was then, and he said it was 4.8k . Weird cus none of us was in a party and i had much higher MMR than him.

                                      King of Low Prio

                                        no question about it, I am not the greatest player around but he is worse than me

                                        Born

                                          fun fact, there is blue and pink player in every game.

                                          Sayzee

                                            And they always lose the game, both blue and pink :D
                                            No, just OP not lucky enough to carry his team to win while having the highest MMR on the team.