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General DiscussionCountering a push team / Full necronomicon

Countering a push team / Full necronomicon in General Discussion
Juke Ellington

    How to counter a full push team like in this match ?

    http://dotabuff.com/matches/427181898

    Push heroes + full necronomicon, undy for crowd control and str steal.

    Ples Mercy

      Meepo, tinker, kotl, timbersaw, LC, necro, brood, sven, magnus, engima etc.

      you can't be serious.

      Luxon

        medusa ult will kill all the summons..... and herself.

        Ples Mercy

          ^
          worth it.

          Flosstradasmurf

            But medusa team can take down enemy team easily (stone form)
            Medusa is be initiator :D

            Juke Ellington

              Yeah, got you, lots of aoe, but that's what the pugna ward is for, you can't rly def with magic without taking a ton of damages.

              ;asd

                ask icefrog -> icefrog@gmail.com

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                Vaikiss`742.

                  gankers deals good with pushers hypotheticly atleast :D

                  if u pick them off before they starts grouping as 5 and summon necros u got pretty high chances of winning teamfight

                  in defensing position heroes like rubick,kotl deals good with creep waves

                  chen and chen counter necro (bones and lifestealer too)

                  and heroes like pudge ancient apparition deals good with heroes

                  EmptyJar

                    since heroes pushing like to stand in one place(at least unexperienced tryhard stacks) the good way to deal with them is what vaikiss said+ also potm. Oh and qop hurts a lot if they start grouping up in early levels, I've seen rampages on qop against a fail push ^^ Oh and shaker is also a beast who can counter pushes easily. And don't forget the windrunner.

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                    Totentanz to The King: M ...

                      Counter push = Elder Titan. He is like the ultimate guy in defending pushes because spirit pretty much hits everything unlike some other spells like Powershot. And since there will be a lot of units you can suddenly gain +300 damage. If a teamfight breaks out right at that point, you will wreck face. His ulti is pretty good at defending as well and the aura makes other counter-push spells hit harder.

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                      Guts

                        Ez counter kunkka tide bringer 1 hit

                        xLeGend_oF_SwAg

                          ^AM best counter

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                          imbaPower

                            I don't agree with swag xlegend here.

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                              furion rat doto best doto

                              Juke Ellington

                                Furion alone won't push like a full retarded team.

                                couto

                                  people are not considering that killing 5 necros would result in death for any hero. The only way I see is doing early ganks or hard teamfights with AOE spells on early game also (before necro 3 on everyone), and going for towers after each teamfight.

                                  MadBeast

                                    They got the 5 necro only because you failed to counter their early push on the t1 towers.

                                    And you have two midas in your team vs full push tower team, mek for maiden and early fighting item on lifestealer would have help.

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                                    jo~

                                      omni dusa. omni od. omni kunkka.

                                      doodad

                                        TECHIES.