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General DiscussionNeed some helpful criticism in this game

Need some helpful criticism in this game in General Discussion
gK

    http://dotabuff.com/matches/437454825

    Does Pudge was solely responsable for our lost ? What I could´ve done differently so we would not lose.

    Thanks in advance for the feedback and merry xmas.

    Ples Mercy

      Sniper pudge and gyro. LuLz

      Wink

        Dont get vlads on PL, the lifesteal doesnt work on illusions. 2000 gold could be most of a reaver or almost half of an AC

        Vandal

          Yeah, here's an analysis. It seems like you never did anything. Your hero damage is on par with your support and that pudge (~12k when they are ~10k). If you wanted to win, you had to abuse the newb shits in your game, getting your farm via kills rather than farm (and hence increasing your hero damage to ~20k or 25k like that Sniper has). You have to play that kind of snowbally damage-giving/smart player in lower tier. Having low hero damage yet still winning the game from massive farm only works in higher tiers where no one on your team is massively feeding.

          Here's what I mean, in lower tier games, there are fewer TPs at towers to help, and there are more weak players just farming away right next to immediate danger (if the opponents are wise enough to ignore their cautious playing style reserved for higher play and just run in and get the kill). Use your Doppel walk to get right next up to a farming retard close to his tower have T1s are gone, smack him, use q, and just chase him. It's not hard to get frags even with "late game hereos" like PL against shit tards. Also adjust your retarded item build with vlads to include more high-impact early items like drums, s&y, and diffusal blade. I realize S&Y is ALWAYS looked down upon, but in low tier games, it is the bread and butter to any semi-carry or carry having the extra attack speed/damage/move speed/health to just run in there and kill a retard farming and then run out without dying. Yup, drums + S&Y will take your 3k rating to 4k in no time at all.

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          Sayzee

            No chance to win that game.
            And I am curious, why do they type Christmas as xmas? I think it is pronounced as "eksmass"?
            Doesn't make sense.

            Vandal

              @mapsor

              The x is from the Greek spelling of Christ.

              Sayzee

                Nice, more things to know !!

                Quick maffs

                  Well i dont see how their carries could clean your illusions.

                  I mean ok invoker can clean your illusions and maybe alch, but u just had to spam more illusions, they didnt had any aoe stuns.

                  Plus for some reason u had a good amount of last hits but kind of low gpm.

                  Crit gives a really good amount of damage for pl, even if the illusions only crit for 20 % damage is still a lot more.

                  Anyway i didnt saw the game so i cant tell.

                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/431349527

                  After getting diffusal you can get easy kills with pl, in this game by the end i had to 1 vs 3 lifestealer luna and drow, plus the fucking drow always knew who whas the real pl.

                  Vandal

                    @dorkly

                    The problem was his hero damage. He AFK farmed all game while the other team actively raped his team and farmed also. He needed to have more impact instead of sitting in the jungle with Vlads. He needed to gank alch, kill some noobs, get farm while stopping the other team from farming. It's not hard to understand. You can only AFK farm if you're in a stack or playing with really good players. And it can even backfire in those situations (we've all seen pro games with AM end at 22 minutes).