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Why is so hard to play solo matchmaking and get decent win? Atleast 55% or 60% + ? in General Discussion
BogiDotA

    I just find out today that when you play solo matchmaking you can play versus 5 stack players..doesn`t matter if you are not in 5 man party. Same if you play with 1 friend you can play versus 5 man stack again vs you and your friend + 3 or even 2+1.
    I m at very high skill bracket in 95% of my games,and like last 2-3 months I m trying to get more than 52% win rate with solo queue but today I realise some things why is that so hard..even if you play really good. 55% is possible if you are like pro like Dendi or Loda maybe or if you play 4-5 your best heroes..otherwise really not possible. I will make new acc and play stack..and will try top 50 win %. Playing trash games like this even in very high and top 10 pages is really starting to be useless and not funny for me. You trying to play smth but you actually have 4 random ppl in your team which plays vs 5 man stack. Like this game http://dotabuff.com/matches/322498202 where my team mates went 0-17 as a support(no chick,wards) , Elder titan mid 1-9 and Wr offlane 1-10.

    Sōu ka

      I'm fucking dendi nice

      one and half gun

        lol what, there are players with over 1k matches and 60+% winrate from solo queuing

        Grimorum

          When I solo queue, I never play against team stacks. My last game was on Sunday.

          Did you edit your preferences? "No Parties when alone"

          Sōu ka

            can the guy who's 5 man stacking and playing limited hero pool games please link someone with 1k+ games solo queue and 60%+ win rate

            BogiDotA

              Y everyone can say 60% + and solo queue after he don`t play like 1 month and friends list dissapier from his profile = )

              BogiDotA

                Limited hero pool mode Lolz, I ll try that maybe i win some.. last game http://dotabuff.com/matches/322660846 leaver and gg again,I get fb. doesn`t matter.

                BogiDotA

                  How you even play that mode..I m finding match 6 min. and still nth.

                  one and half gun

                    i solo queue and my winrate is 90% ~ its more about being good

                    Sōu ka

                      is that why you're playing limited hero pool?

                      Woof Woof

                        this is main problem behind your case
                        "As far as Matchmaking is concerned none of those buckets exist - We match on a continuous scale."
                        for example in hon or lol there is set max -/+ rating difference between players in one game if stacks with huge rating spread arent present so in longer run your games literally get better and better while here top page players often end up playing some shithole games because mm thinks its time 4u to find a game

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                        clees42

                          op. the match you posted is not soloqueue. if you check the player profiles you will see that there are stacks on both sides.

                          Sōu ka

                            christ, that's the point of the thread

                            BogiDotA

                              clees42 As i said I did solo queue..I wasn`t in any party and there were games like 1+4 , 1+1+1+2 or smth.. vs 5 man stack lol

                              Woof Woof

                                also here u got example as to how hard it is 2 improve your rating in dota

                                "My TMM team started with a 3621 rating, after going 18-4 we are now 3657, not facing better opponent"
                                and its same shit in normal mm
                                http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1n4gc1/my_tmm_team_started_with_a_3621_rating_after/

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                                Terrible

                                  @painting, he is also using an exploit with chris and the other dickheads. smurf stack, exploiting and playing in limited hero pool. oh boy, what a player

                                  Sōu ka

                                    you gotta take what you can get
                                    might as well get 1 player into low priority to get even easier games

                                    Chris.

                                      thanks for calling me a dickhead, scumbag

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                                      Quick maffs

                                        Why do you people expect so much about the MM ? I thought it was pretty clear that the MM is "sometimes" shit.

                                        Harry hamburgerryg

                                          This game is shit, and it will be for a very long time. Just that they have a hidden mmr system is complete fucking garbage. This is like wow patches with hidden nerfs. I'm buying a ps3 and start playing the new gta. I'll bet it's so much better than dota.

                                          Quick maffs

                                            ^Or people could just care less about winrate. I dont think that winrate represents how good you actually are. I have friends that 5 man stack every fucking game and always pick the same heroes .... they winrate is pretty high but they only play 4 or 5 of all dota heroes and have no idea how to support or how to offlane. Dotabuff seems like a social network where people compare they winrates ...

                                            Harry hamburgerryg

                                              That's right it doesnt. Playing the same heroes all the time,doesnt show any skills. its just repeating, everyone can do that. But the thing is people care about their winrate, as dota doesnt have any other system that shows rating,bracket, or skills level. They could just develop a rating system smiliar to lols, problem solved people wont care about winrate anymore, but a actually system with rating.

                                              Dunning-Kruger-Doto

                                                Aha, so Admiral Bulldogg has no skill. Cool story bro.

                                                HeLL_RAISeR

                                                  "~~~~~~~~11 hours ago
                                                  i solo queue and my winrate is 90% ~ its more about being good"
                                                  "Friend Matches Win Rate
                                                  CELESTIAL123-SAMA CELESTIA... 31
                                                  96.77%
                                                  *Les_nuls_PenGuin'(^_-)<3 *Les_nul... 30
                                                  86.67%
                                                  Deuce.<3 Deuce.<3 20
                                                  100.00%
                                                  SponGeBoZZ! (◣_◢) SponGeBo... 20
                                                  85.00%
                                                  Chris Chris 18
                                                  94.44%
                                                  MORE PEW PEW LESS QQ MORE PEW... 13
                                                  100.00%
                                                  ᅠᅠ ᅠ20fpsdota ᅠᅠ ... 11
                                                  100.00%"

                                                  Dodged 43 games. K

                                                  mwsqz

                                                    i win my games solo everytime even vs stacks, the pb comes from u. , im back.

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                                                    Cronos

                                                      OP, did you really solo que(meaning you have checked the checkbox in the preferences that says "Don't match with parties when alone")? if so, you should report it to the devs forum

                                                      Woof Woof

                                                        ^dude solo mm isnt separated from normal mm for quite a while now

                                                        Woof Woof

                                                          now its just a preference like select language

                                                          BogiDotA

                                                            http://dotabuff.com/matches/323450516 Again joke game ... I can`t win a one single game lmao.......

                                                            Sōu ka

                                                              how can you lose with 5 cores
                                                              goddammit valve get your shit together and buff carries/semi carries

                                                              Kermit

                                                                I don't think I've ever seen an enemy team with more Shivas lol Also uhhhh Support Invoker?? :(

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                                                                Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                                                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/321024977 joke games are everywhere. But there are good games as well. Just don't lose your hope.

                                                                  BogiDotA

                                                                    Its ok. joke game sometime.. but dude I m like really playin like 15/20 last games 1v9

                                                                    BogiDotA

                                                                      solo queue so easy vs (5 man stack)

                                                                      Kermit

                                                                        Find weakest player of 5 man stack, 5 man gank them 15+ times, make them ragequit? lol

                                                                        Swiftending

                                                                          you needed 1000 games to figure out stacks arent separated from solo queuers?

                                                                          Woof Woof

                                                                            Find weakest player of 5 man stack
                                                                            shittiest players usually pick most op heroes
                                                                            no? what is he going to do if shit enemy for example picks naga or spirit breaker or hero with blink

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                                                                            BogiDotA

                                                                              Y, was think is like 4+1 vs 4+1 5 vs 5 2+3 vs 2+3 etc.. now I understand how ppl are 60% + win rate , is not just skill..is more about stacks. Even Merlini ( One of best players at the world,I respect him alot ) He won`t be 69% wr. if he don`t stack. And ofc he play always 5 man party pub dota like all pros..ofc is easy too get that win rate..with 4 decent players who know each other..and in alot of case play vs 5 random guys like 2+3 or 1+4..which are not even close too their skill..and coordination in game.

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                                                                              one and half gun

                                                                                you know if you dont want to face stacks, just tick "solo queue" next to languages

                                                                                Woof Woof

                                                                                  it doesnt work

                                                                                  BogiDotA

                                                                                    Too late now for that dude, my profile is already fucked up alot I m at fucking 51.50% win rate with 1050 games with so fucking bad k/d/a and win rates on heroes,it`s not even real. I will made new acc and try too find decent people for stack like you do ~ ~ ~ ~ .

                                                                                    BogiDotA

                                                                                      It`s funnier to pubstomp and have nice profile than playin unbalanced 1v9 or 2v8 games. I will use this profile in future maybe just for ixdl league.

                                                                                      King of Low Prio

                                                                                        ~ ~ ~ ~ abuses how games are recorded if you want fake numbers send him a private msg. If you actually want to get better stop blaming your teammates

                                                                                        BogiDotA

                                                                                          I don`t flame my team members , I just can`t win with those randoms they are so bad. Feed every lane every time,clueless like normal bracket or smth. I m maybe not even very high now lol.

                                                                                          one and half gun

                                                                                            what fake numbers?

                                                                                            Ples Mercy

                                                                                              BogiDotA @ :'((((((

                                                                                              russians. blaming their mates while going afkfarm somewhere and let them lose 4n5

                                                                                              King of Low Prio

                                                                                                http://dotabuff.com/matches/323523089

                                                                                                legit game bro

                                                                                                I could go thru the list I just picked the first one.....

                                                                                                one and half gun

                                                                                                  gondar didn't leave and he wanted to ruin his teammates kda :)

                                                                                                  way2high

                                                                                                    Once your on a losing streak, stop playing for the day and come back the next.

                                                                                                    Kermit

                                                                                                      I'm so sorry that this is a League of Legends video but it's applicable to a lot of video games (Also since ranked/normals doesn't exist in dota, ill take this to mean just stop playing like the guy above me said)

                                                                                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02suAmqYAGg&noredirect=1

                                                                                                      Don't play on tilt.

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