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General DiscussionWhen these Valve shitters gonna fix mm? Feel free to post your one-si...

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crying

    http://dotabuff.com/matches/233255209

    Dat game was too well-balanced. Pairing me with newbish tiny mid and russian passive retard bara with orb of venom against some 59% winrate nerds.

    How does this mm make such well-balanced games?

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    xXxSasuke_Uchiha_666xXx

      The moment I saw Vanguard Kunkka I closed the window

      Ming (Zufälliger König)

        i need you to destroy his cunt please

        crying

          http://dotabuff.com/matches/235029154

          Sniper picker sucking ass, wr goes mid. Ofc enemies are nerds with pro pick and level of control.

          Im really trying to find a reason for playing solo mm but this mm actually doesnt have any sense.

          PS Just checked out. Oh come on, again 55-60% winrate nerds. Just hopeless thing this mm is.

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          Pandamonium(You Died)

            Should have got lvl 1 rosh
            cmon, step up ur game

            crying

              http://dotabuff.com/matches/235066935

              Retards go for trilane top and go for 0-6 score in general. Invoker gives fb off mid. I just left another trashgame.

              Pandamonium(You Died)

                Why not just stack ursa-IO-treant every game and win 100%? This way, matchmaking won't be able to do anything!

                crying

                  ^ It gets boring kinda fast. But actually this is really better than sucking with 4 newbs 50% of games.

                  crying

                    I dont get this shit.

                    http://dotabuff.com/matches/235442431

                    Now mm always gives me a 60% winrate nerd as an enemy while my team is lost mid, 3-8 lycan woods and trash luna. WTF? :/

                    Sentenza

                      I reveal the terrible truth:

                      MMR tries to find players with the same amount of wins (of course stacks can make this a little trickier).

                      When 10 people are chosen they are tried to balanced around their MMR. OP has very high MMR (thanks to 5-men stacking and winning always with level 1 Rosh strat). So the matches are usually "balanced" if he (super MMR) plays with the worst MMR guys against the average and decent ones.

                      The more you stack, the higher your MMR will be and soloing will be a nightmare.

                      Edit:
                      Oh and I've been informed that OP is a nice guy in real life and he is just playing a rude role here in the forum. I've fallen for it. WP 10/10.

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                      crying

                        ^ I wasnt playing all the games with x5 stack, actually like 3% of my total games.

                        But thanks for saying a good thing about me. :p

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                        M142 HIMARS RUS REMOVER

                          I know your feel bro. I had very long winning streak few days ago (10 in a row, then next 5 wins - all without a team) and now I'm getting one-sided games from 2 days already :/ The best way is find good friends to play together but if you start winning with them you will get team of Dendi'es as opponents in reward

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                          crying

                            ^ So true.

                            antero

                              you've got 69 cs as weaver

                              ?

                              trash luna also has the most net worth on your team. i'm going to assume this is a gigantic troll though, nobody could keep this up for almost half a year

                              crying

                                ^ I was on hard, watch a replay before open ur mouth. Trash luna fed 2-4 on ez lane against solo wr.

                                For some fucking reason almost none of u guys see the forest among the trees. If u had 500 ck am with 0-10 score and a lost game as a result, would u say he is good cuz he actually can lh?

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                                Alex

                                  do you stack lie to me agen fagt ?

                                  Ash

                                    Ursa Io Treant stack does not always win, takes a fucking retard to not realise they're trying rosh at lvl 1

                                    http://dotabuff.com/matches/235873956

                                    Was this you, OP? They quit as soon as we killed them.

                                    crying

                                      Alex, not always.

                                      404error, nope, why?

                                      Sentenza

                                        http://dotabuff.com/matches/236452722

                                        In our team everyone knew what to do. Mirana was the best because he managed to play an unconventional support (#5) role. The enemy team was terrible tbh. Sniper farming alone against a ganking Bara on the map? Random AA ultis across the map without followup. Bounty not ganking from level 6. Missed WL ultis. I prefer balanced matches.

                                        crying

                                          ^ No fair allowed in this game. You gonna lose and win when this mm wants.

                                          Sayzee

                                            Look at Vaikiss, he stacked like 15 games (won maybe 14), then started playing solo again, lost 11 out of 13 or 14.
                                            MM just doesn't want u to win

                                            PS. he lose cus of feeders

                                            crying

                                              ^ Wait, this shit cant be. By Valkiss logic he is the one to blame for losses. Shitty newb.

                                              Papa Het

                                                http://dotabuff.com/matches/155625137

                                                this must be the best example I've ever seen of balanced games and the game not giving me retards...

                                                not

                                                Papa Het

                                                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/238181572

                                                  and now, for once, I was on the opposite site. Holy fuck how was that balanced :D

                                                  randy savage

                                                    wowwww

                                                    Sōu ka

                                                      when i get 4 retards on my team i rather lose the game quickly than having to play with them for 50+ minutes

                                                      what's your problem

                                                      crying

                                                        ^ My retards are that bad that they are actually happy to prolong such games.

                                                        MisS_MAtr0nic s33s tr@sh PpL

                                                          I highly doubt that the matchmaking system is imbalanced.You hav to consider the fact that D2 is a relatively new MOBA (without taking into account D1) that is made by VALVE, a company that wants to make MONEY.How do you make money in the computer gaming industry? You have to get a large player base.How do you do that, especially when you compete against the commercial titan that is RIOT's LOL (an admittedly much easier game, more newbie friendly and with less gameplay depth than D2)? You have to make it appealing to the casual gamer that has to choose between RIOT and VALVE, choose VALVE and NOT say after the first 10 games "Screw that, DOTA too hard, imma switch to LoL". This means you have to please him AS WELL AS the more experienced player, that will, at some point , inadvertedly play with the scrub. Hence , both of them must feel that, they are actually GOOD at the game, not REALLY GOOD or BAD straightforward, just GOOD.ANd 50% winrate, is satisfactory for both of them, the overachiever and the underachiever.That sucks ass for players of Vaikiss' calibre and pleases players of "ya Russ, ya pudge,ya mid KTHXBYE 1-417714-0 score". Please, take into consideration the commercial aspects of the whole thing, nobody is working in VALVE for your pleasure, but rather for a rather fat paycheck.The amtchmaking isn't there to make people happy.It's there ta make more people WANT to play the game. More people=PROFITZ

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                                                          Sōu ka

                                                            no it has nothing to do with valve wanting to make money
                                                            Matchmaking systems have always been about making fair games and that is having a 50% chance to win for each team or getting as close to it as possible, and it has been like that way before valve started working on dota 2

                                                            MisS_MAtr0nic s33s tr@sh PpL

                                                              What you are describing is actually viable, only if you have completely distinct and separate caterogizing of player skill.Categories that on a further note, actually never come into contact with.This meaning that a "lower bracket" player never gets to play with "higher bracket" players until he himself somehow finds himself on the said "higher bracket". So, that not being the case in D2, please explain to me why is that type of matchmaking system selected for the particular game? The only way imho for someone to get a good winratio is to stack and stack hard , 4-5 stacks, in almost every game.In that case, the retard factor is minimized and is at least under control.However, even 4 stacks fail, testament to this is my last AM game http://dotabuff.com/matches/238999480 which was lost due to Bane being russian and wanting to deliberately screw the game by feeding in the lane in purpose, autoattacking, not using his skills ,literally,abusing voice chat and written chat by proudly declaring that he will fuck this game up no matter what and just going afk for minutes on end.I am not gonna say that my friends were the best either,mediocre towards bad players all of them except the pudger mannen, but if we didn't play 4v5 for 30 mins, we would have won easily.So, now, what purpose does my being matched with that guy, for the sake of the legendary "50%", serve?Besides making the bad players on the other team feel better i mean.

                                                              Ash

                                                                Re: lie to me agen fagt

                                                                "404error, nope, why?"

                                                                I thought I remember reading a reply from you weeks ago here saying ursa / io lvl 1 rosh was the only way to win games with tards :p I was mistaken.

                                                                OdiN

                                                                  @lie

                                                                  Not saying I agree with you 100%, but this match was completely one sided. We raxed them in 16min. A pure MM fail at that.

                                                                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/239912652

                                                                  crying

                                                                    Now it just happens like this -> I lose, then I win and the won game just fucking wont count. Gaben moved to more radical ways.

                                                                    crying

                                                                      IsThatHowYouLikeYourPancakes, just what the fuck 50% of winning? Maybe u are talking about 50% winrate? Cuz when you can even predict when u get 4 feeding newbs in your team has nothing to do with balance.

                                                                      Sōu ka

                                                                        you mean like this game http://dotabuff.com/matches/239123858 where i solo queue into a low level rd game
                                                                        and get matched against your 3 man stack with inflated MMR after abusing that roshan shit for 300 games each
                                                                        and you complain about having 5 bad teammates while you actually are in a 3 man stack firstpicking nyxx, mag and kotl
                                                                        while i also get like at least 3 really bad players and you esentially lose to me and the viper

                                                                        Swiftending

                                                                          fix mm bone7 bat too strong

                                                                          crying

                                                                            IsThatHowYouLikeYourPancakes, bad players are useless top and complete failed mid by our side? Dunno how this shit is connected with the thing that mm is trash, though. U make no sense.

                                                                            Btw, here incoming one nice game http://dotabuff.com/matches/240262428

                                                                            Pudge is a complete blind sucker, freefarming void got mom in 30 min.

                                                                            Checked out, pudge has 58% winrate though he sucks ass even with his top played hero. Oh nice, mm.

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                                                                            Sōu ka

                                                                              weaver and visage actually won the offlane? and they should gank the viper, too i guess their fault for not winning 2/3 lanes while offlaning
                                                                              and your mid player is the person you've played the most games with?
                                                                              he got completely destroyed and your gank attempts at top failed miserably as well

                                                                              crying

                                                                                ^ That was not my fail, retard. But fail of our mid that didnt gank shit and top that couldnt do shit aswell. You was given a free win by mm, so be happy kiddo.

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                                                                                Sōu ka

                                                                                  no i didn't get a free win i actually won the game
                                                                                  yes it was easy as fuck but that's because you and your friends are bad so yeah it was cheap

                                                                                  crying

                                                                                    ^ Nah, u only won cuz we had shitty mid, shitty kotl pick and shitty top. Try to accept the truth - another one-sided shitty game for newbs to make them think they are good. But ure bad, kiddo. Actually I ulted u kliddos several times ez as np.

                                                                                    But actually u have a point here, maybe these guys are bad, but Im not, better than u anyways. Try to live with it.

                                                                                    Btw, http://dotabuff.com/matches/240299240

                                                                                    Trash again. Useless russian sniper mid, 4v5 game - gege.

                                                                                    Sōu ka

                                                                                      you had an empty lane and got a 13 min blink dagger arcanes?
                                                                                      you started ganking before you had it and died for nothing
                                                                                      you had 1 decent rp

                                                                                      your 2 random teammates win the offlane leaving mid and safelane+support to your stack, with each and everyone of you failing harder than the other 2 teammates not having a reasonable impact at all

                                                                                      what's your solo queue winrate lately something like 30%?

                                                                                      Kidades

                                                                                        That game was a total disaster. I did not want to go mid at all. And I probably wouldn't have picked nyx if I didn't have like 10 seconds to pick. I thought that someone would pick bat/od/viper and go mid but no and I was forced to got mid even though I never play mid. And nyx can't do much against viper.
                                                                                        Also he had luck with runes. 3 times in a row I went to check the rune and it spawned on he other side so viper took it. First he got haste, went top and successfully got a double kill. And the next time he went bot with another rune.

                                                                                        Visage failed to pick, got visage randomly and raged at start.
                                                                                        Kotl was a shitty pick. Weaver was shitty pick after enemy picked Slardar.
                                                                                        You totally outpicked us.

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                                                                                        Sōu ka

                                                                                          how's weaver a shit pick when they have slardar lmao

                                                                                          this game has nothing to do with picks you had 5 good heroes and just got outplayed that's all
                                                                                          could have went mid with mag, too but oh well

                                                                                          i like how your friend is flaming you when it's pretty obvious that your MMR is simply too high for you to handle without abusing roshan and ursa-tree-wisp

                                                                                          antero

                                                                                            this thread never fails to deliver. holy shit people are deluded.

                                                                                            Papa Het

                                                                                              The funny thing is, even if I win I feel like I get teamed up with really really bad players. I barely have anyone with above 50% wins in my team. Take this as an example:

                                                                                              http://dotabuff.com/matches/240572178

                                                                                              Random draft, I was drafting first, I felt like SB because I haven't played him in a while and he's so broken in pubgames. Second draft was the razor (this guy was such a retard you won't believe it) but at this stage I didn't know that, so I was okay with a second carry. 3rd draft was Lifestealer (okay... 3rd carry... 2nd melee carry... wow). He was kind of bad, he build armlett after mjolnir because I told him so... man. Our support was decent. Kotl and Disruptor did a great job.

                                                                                              But that razor. After I drafted SB, HE called safelane. As razor. In that constellation. lol. Well.

                                                                                              He fucked up my earlygame really bad, even missed his lasthits, but after a while I was able to completely shut him down (my own teammate... lol) and he fucked off to roam a bit. From there it was easy, I farmed, killed, won the game. Razor kept flaming me the whole game (despite his and my score) because I told him he should mid or suicidelane. These kids guys. These kids...

                                                                                              crying

                                                                                                IsThatHowYouLikeYourPancakes, read Kidades' post, kiddo. And stop being delusional. Though its not so much about picks, but about your newbs were better than mine.

                                                                                                Btw, I did more then 1 good rp, dont be so retarded.