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General Discussion+80 mmr per game?

+80 mmr per game? in General Discussion
Crispy Kare-Kare

    Is there any way to see the mmr changes? I've played 3 games and in all those 3 games I ranked up 4 times. Twice in each Core and Support. I'm in a 5 man party with my friends. I'm pretty sure i gained +200mmr in just 3 games. how did this happen?

    LeHowl James

      smurf bonus, so you dont have to ruin 100 games, only 30

      Crispy Kare-Kare

        I thought it was just a bug for partying with high mmr friends. I guess Valve listed me on the next smurf ban list

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        gg

          Yes ur next

          kowareta

            There is no such a thing as smurf bonus

            Crispy Kare-Kare

              I can actually send you some screenshots of my match history and feed that shows 4 games within the same day and 4 rank ups

              Crispy Kare-Kare

                https://imgur.com/p7NdkJp my dota feed and you can actually see my match history here so there you go how did that happen?

                诗酒趁年华

                  what happen if you lose the game ? -80?

                  kowareta

                    ^He lost the first game and ranked up :/

                    Crispy Kare-Kare

                      yep I lost that alche game but still ranked up then I got +80 all 3games now I lost AM game but no -mmr

                      MuLLi

                        There is smurf bonus and u can get some +200 mmr per game. Meanwhile smurf do not get -200 if lose just normal -20

                        MuLLi

                          Valve has problems to get enough new players so they did implement smurf bonus to get more smurfs to keep the game "alive"

                          Crispy Kare-Kare

                            https://imgur.com/483RbNk
                            https://imgur.com/87pknjR
                            it varies on your party I think
                            i got +30 core +40 supp

                            kowareta

                              how do you even know about it mulli
                              i played on archon smurfs
                              i had 30 wins and 2 loses, they banned me for boosting mmr but never gave me higher mmr gain to reach my skill lvl
                              smurf bonus is for fresh accounts

                              kowareta

                                are you playing ranked role or classic?

                                Crispy Kare-Kare

                                  ranked classic

                                  kowareta

                                    well i dont know what is going on there but i guess thats why

                                    Crispy Kare-Kare

                                      yesterday i was playing 5 man with crusader and legends i was getting +80-100
                                      now im playing with 1 archon and legends with 1 ancient 5 i only got +30

                                      Sygma zxc ghoul 2y.o dead...

                                        i had 30 wins and 2 loses, they banned me for boosting mmr but never gave me higher mmr gain to reach my skill lvl

                                        Imagine being banned for actually playing well.

                                        kowareta

                                          it says "potential smurf accounts" not "potential smurfs"
                                          if you play on dogshit account with 50% winrate and u manage to win 90% -> u are boosting (probably others) -> banned
                                          if you play on smurf account with 70% winrate and u manage to keep winning->u are boosting (probably your self) -> u gain bonus

                                          obviously op account is not smurf account

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                                          Crispy Kare-Kare

                                            https://imgur.com/jRVZsZq
                                            1 game with same party same plus on mmr. My theory is the bonus depends on your party based on the screenshots

                                            MuLLi

                                              @Kowareta I have over 10000h dota experience in last 3y so I might know it all :D

                                              Vaikiss`742.

                                                but this only works for new smurfs on old u still get same old 30 mmr

                                                Now

                                                  I get +60 per win on party mmr games, my party mmr teammates only get 20 tho

                                                  MuLLi

                                                    It do not need to be new acc to get boost

                                                    MuLLi

                                                      Valve really have problems to get enough new players so they try to get old players to make new accounts :D

                                                      Crispy Kare-Kare

                                                        this is not a new account. I got it from someone here on dotabuff also when I was asking for a smurf account.
                                                        before me the old user had like 500-600 first. I think when your stats suddenly jumps thats when Valve will notice you and give you the bonus