The standard atleast in high level pub dota is.
Position 5 hero first - (this hero's job is to make sure his cores have a game, he doesn't care if he's countered)
The enemy team will respond with thier pos 5 and pos3/4
You will then pick your pos 3 and 4
They will respond with either pos 3 + 1 or 2 +3 (usually you want mid last, some exceptions you get carry last)
You will respond with Pos 2 + pos 1
They will last pick thier carry or mid (highest impact hero, eg. meepo, brood etc)
To summarise, Your order should look something similar to this
5-4-3-1-2
There are cases for opening with a strong versitile core, Mirana/Windrunner/zues come to mind, these heros keep your draft flexible and can potentially open you up for a support counter pick. Eg. AA into alchemist or something, Oracle into darkseer etc.
however it's usually better to hide your cores so you can bait the enemy team into picks. Eg. they might pick tinker with zues still in the pool. If you show your zues, they might not pick that tinker.
And regarding if you should pick around your supports. yes, very much so.
eg.
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4024706071
In this game, we had an early core random (dp), They responded with Willow + invoker.
This allowed us to setup for good counters ... Jakiro + skywrath
A void on its own isn't notoriously very good vs an axe + darkwillow... Both of those heros have Kit's that can full to nothing the void.
However because our team had a draft with extremly high damage potential for a chrono (macropire +Dp ghosts + mystic flare) and void is a great pick against invoker, it was fine for the void to 'Counter himself, in order to enable his team'
The standard atleast in high level pub dota is.
Position 5 hero first - (this hero's job is to make sure his cores have a game, he doesn't care if he's countered)
The enemy team will respond with thier pos 5 and pos3/4
You will then pick your pos 3 and 4
They will respond with either pos 3 + 1 or 2 +3 (usually you want mid last, some exceptions you get carry last)
You will respond with Pos 2 + pos 1
They will last pick thier carry or mid (highest impact hero, eg. meepo, brood etc)
To summarise, Your order should look something similar to this
5-4-3-1-2
There are cases for opening with a strong versitile core, Mirana/Windrunner/zues come to mind, these heros keep your draft flexible and can potentially open you up for a support counter pick. Eg. AA into alchemist or something, Oracle into darkseer etc.
however it's usually better to hide your cores so you can bait the enemy team into picks. Eg. they might pick tinker with zues still in the pool. If you show your zues, they might not pick that tinker.
And regarding if you should pick around your supports. yes, very much so.
eg.
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4024706071
In this game, we had an early core random (dp), They responded with Willow + invoker.
This allowed us to setup for good counters ... Jakiro + skywrath
A void on its own isn't notoriously very good vs an axe + darkwillow... Both of those heros have Kit's that can full to nothing the void.
However because our team had a draft with extremly high damage potential for a chrono (macropire +Dp ghosts + mystic flare) and void is a great pick against invoker, it was fine for the void to 'Counter himself, in order to enable his team'
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Traditionally during drafting phase, we pick the two supports first, offlaner, carry or mid (depending on opponent picks). So I was wondering if it's the first two picks that impact the game on how it would go and should we pick carries that play around the two support picks?