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General Discussionwhat heroes will be nerfed the hardest after this ti?

what heroes will be nerfed the hardest after this ti? in General Discussion
Lokieleven

    I believe visage will get smacked with the nerf hammer pretty damn hard

    Spec Deck

      earthshaker will definitely get hit

      Shou

        Shaker, lycan

        evy

          Earth spirit dark seer io batrider like usual lmao

          trench

            Lol dark seer nerf confirmed. Lich and earthshaker will get nerfed too.

            Meepo should be buffed lol

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            Lokieleven

              id have to stop playing dota if meepo got buffed^

              evy

                I already have

                trench

                  NP needs buff too

                  Shou

                    Tiny needs a buff

                    evy

                      NP needs buff too

                      You mean C9 huehehuehueu

                      PiesangSlagter

                        More nerfs to NS. Nerfs for es, Sven, sk, puck, Miranda?

                        despair

                          Nerf the shaker es

                          kanra

                            Night stalker will be nerfed for sure.

                            Cheap Laugh Guy

                              Don't forget the little green man

                              Tribo

                                Night Stalker, Earth Shaker, Tusk, Visage, Bat and Nyx will be nerfed for sure.

                                Fee Too Pee

                                  Sven will get nerf , seriously that hero do not care about laning phase

                                  what? u zone me completely at laning phase? ancient stack +million damage by ult lmao

                                  Zetsabre

                                    Spirit Breaker, cuz 17% is real

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                                    Tribo

                                      SB lullll, lowest win rate in TI

                                      菊花之茶

                                        no nerf just buff the weaker heroes

                                        Wrath

                                          Definitely the top 10 most picked

                                          white boy summer

                                            or just another big patch which refreshes strategies again. remember warlock being first pick 1 month ago? now he's nowhere, not bcz he got nerfed, but cuz the meta shifted. safelane for sure needs a buff since it's garbage again (something like readjusting camps and down-uphill locations) and mb shift the catapult wave again

                                            basement :)

                                              It feels bad when most of the top tier heroes are off lane, and that is literally the only lane I do not play. I want an ES and Nyx nerf. I really want a Vanguard buff. There is a problem when Solar Crest is almost always better than it. Also, Tiny buffs would be nice. I want to play that hero.

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                                              Cнейкмонгер

                                                why nyx nerf ;-;

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                                                  Hardest: Sven (will get fucked for good, hopefully will get nerfed back to the fucking stone age), ES.

                                                  Relatively noticeable nerfs will be: Nyx, Lycan.

                                                  Minor to moderate nerfs: Spirit Breaker, Batrider, Night Stalker, Visage.

                                                  BenaoLifedancer

                                                    visage too, he can't be that tanky. Necro longer cd ghost and shorter duration too

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                                                      Visage ain't stomping the pro scene hard enough and OSFrog doesn't give much of a fuck about pubs.

                                                      Though, because the hero is broken good in pubs atm, he will get a slight little nerf to drop his winrate by 1-2%. That's it.

                                                      Unless Arteezy/Lil/(idk who else @ this TI spammed Visage in pubs) will completely obliterate some team during the main event 2-3 times, hero ain't getting nerfed hard.

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                                                      Desolate

                                                        why is PL picked non stop?
                                                        is it only cause of milion straight buffs?

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                                                          I expect teams to pull out their secret strategies closer to main event though.

                                                          I am sure many tier-1 teams have some hidden WE GOT THIS-strategies hidden in their sleeves, which they will keep until the main event.

                                                          So, Visage may get suddenly picked in every second game during the winner bracket playoffs.

                                                          Think about it: EG certainly have at least one Arc Warden strat in their pocket atm; VP have a player, who spammed Visage and they're keeping it, until the time comes, probably; DC may get Meepo for Abed, if the enemies will lose their "instaban/instacounter Meepo" gut instinct, again, I am sure, they're keeping it silent to suddenly last pick him, where needed; etc.

                                                          GRANT MACDONALD

                                                            ^
                                                            agree. I think some brood push strats are incoming as well after liquid rolled over EG with a push lineup earlier.
                                                            Oh and theres no way Abed gets his hands on a meepo in the bracket rounds

                                                            Shou

                                                              PL just happened to be situationally good in many games this tournament I thinj

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                                                                烟雨花

                                                                  arc warden maybe?
                                                                  casting ulti cost mana.

                                                                  Mr. Jin

                                                                    Chaos knight definitely

                                                                    Kaiki Deishu

                                                                      CM will get nerfed to shit next patch I'm sure.

                                                                      Calmone

                                                                        Puck needs to be nerfed asap

                                                                        Khalilov

                                                                          Jungle lc nerf

                                                                          p9

                                                                            Jungle magic resist nerf,heroes are balanced now,just dont nerf IO again ass.hole !!!

                                                                            kormoranas

                                                                              i just hope nyx would not be nerfed :(
                                                                              at least, remove or revork his agham, just dont nerf his skills

                                                                              joveexz

                                                                                Visage needs to get buffed tbh

                                                                                kormoranas

                                                                                  Visage is already too op, every time i encounter it in pub, he has insanely good score, just nerf this shit pls

                                                                                  kero kero bonito

                                                                                    i wld expect a bara & NS nerf. this TI, or particulary the current meta, rely on tanky or mobile heroes that can roam out of nowhere/dominate early/mid game. also, this TI groupstage saw again the return of pocket push strat from teams like Liquid and LFY (e.g. Nature's Prophet).

                                                                                    Pale Mannie

                                                                                      necro will get nerfed

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                                                                                        Stentorian

                                                                                          not enough necro mentions. that hero is op as shit. cd on ghost shroud should be increased. cd on scythe should be increased.

                                                                                          kk

                                                                                            necro and pugna i guess. and a lot of heroes should get buff

                                                                                            Dire Wolf

                                                                                              Nyxxxx, nyx nyx nyx nyx. Hero is 31-8 in group stage at TI. THIRTY ONE AND EIGHT.

                                                                                              Earthshaker is tearing up TI and pubs too so probably nerfed. I don't see visage doing that much in pros, he's not picked in pubs enough to matter. Don't see it.