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General DiscussionAlchemist 6.86?

Alchemist 6.86? in General Discussion
Dominus

    So after the slight nerf to Greevils Greed and bottle ,is Alch still a viable mid hero? Is there a better way to play him this patch than the standard rat build rad/bots/manta/octarine that worked so well last patch? Safe lane maybe? Especially now that you can buy a bottle from side shop.

    Murranji

      In my experience playing him people don't even realise that you have farmed them an Aghs sceptre so be sure to tell them that you are going to buy them one and get confirmation that they understand what this means before you go ahead and waste your money farming them one if they are going to buy one themselves.

      Livin' Real Good

        This is a good fucking question, no one ever talks about him anymore. I still think he's fucking good, that nerf basically just nerfed his early game, and honestly just nerfed his first bounty rune. Even though you don't get a free bottle anymore from the first 5X rune, you at least get half of it, then when you think about it, bottle got the price lowered, so he STILL gets it relatively fast. I want to say he's good, but that's just my shitty 3.7 opinion.

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          Win Yo Fagot

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            i hate u but i agree with u on this one

            Yenny

              People are trying to figure out how to play him, I find.

              I used to see so many people do the Rad / Manta / Octa build but every time I see an Alch lately it's a new build (and usually a loss for him.)

              7Mad About You

                i really hate when people pick him. please don't pick him

                Dominus

                  I dont know why all the hate for Alch, even when I play him and win someone usually makes a comment. Hes so fun to play, and hes such a versatile hero, so yeah Im not gonna stop picking him ^ lol.

                  KZL-BAT-GUA!!

                    im play alchemist for long times, I have a recommendation of item for alchemist maybe :D

                    Alc can get 1k gpm 850xpm for 35-40min, better than meepo

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                    Riguma Borusu

                      Alchemist is pretty broken in Normal Skill, he does not get ganked nearly as much as needed, and if you pick him and have good farming patterns, and the opponents don't, that's a free win for you.

                      KZL-BAT-GUA!!

                        but i play always met the players who 4k-4.5k MMR, whether there is an average for a normal match?

                        Riguma Borusu

                          Average for NS is 3.2k and bellow, I was referring to Dominus, who seems to mostly play him in Normal Skill. That smurf of yours is all games in Normal Skill lately, so I honestly doubt it, unless some people have really low unranked MMR and much higher ranked MMR, and still manage to queue with you every time, but I doubt it happens that often. You probably underperformed in very high skill were you were up against much better players and played with much better players in your team. It's easy to underperform on alchemist and still win games because the game compares your stat to average stats at a certain skill level, so you can win with 800 GPM even though you should've had 1200 GPM in regards to how the game was going.

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                          KZL-BAT-GUA!!

                            alchemist has been upgraded since it is easier to get GPM and XPM by using radiance and manta style,all about bounty(Gold) i hope this will continue :D
                            no one was the best hero like him to farm

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