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pick meepo, farm dagger, hex vlad hot , bot and aghanim
tp all lanes and keep lans pushed
dagger on pl and hex him then poof poof poof poof then net hit net hit net hit blabla
and pl dead ^_^
or you dont need to play gank, play def and push
meepo can push 2 lanes at a time with bot, 3 lanes is hard because enemy will be on the 3rd lane :D
when enemy is tping to a lane poof to other lane and push and if they all tp get back to base and wait for next opportunity.
and also dusa is not available in cm, pick it and when pl have 10000000000 illusion just ulti and hit :D
you cant drag a game if there is pl / spectre on enemy's side. well even if you do there are many counter items.
and you need to wait for the best opportunity to use it for example wait for pl to use his manta then you disable...
and also dota is a team game not a solo. dont feel like rambo and go 1v1 vs pl.
the way s4 cancelled navi's tp in the final was great, i always do that with invoker tornado.
positioning is critical. if your position is bad you will lose team fight. and like loda said, a good team fight can completely reverse the game.
there is nothing to be afraid of a pl, its just the way you play the game that matters.
@dCM.Derpy.Mu
32 minutes ago
Meepo is actually a decent counter to PL, but for none of the reasons you stated. He is one of the few heroes that can wipe out all the illusions of a six slotted PL easily with little cost to him, something very few heroes are capable of doing. Split pushing with Meepo isn't the greatest idea, one smoke gank and you'll need godly reflexes (and luck) to survive that.
Dusa is available in CM. Dusa doesn't really take out illusions at a respectable pace before an item like Rapier. Busting your ult every time PL split pushes is a sure fire way to lose.
Your reply is hardly relevant to the topic at all.
Crit/battlefury is only a counter against PL if PL is bad and actually walks in to fight you instead of spamming illusions. There is no reason for him to walk in to fight you. Whether defending his base or sieging yours PL can generate at least 4 illusions every creepwave...and each one is virtually certain late game to make a lot more. You can cleave them down but there will be more forever and in the process of cleaving them you lose all hp and mp to diffusal.
Even if you get a huge crit 25% of the time and it 1 hit cleaves the illusions...still 75% of the time you don't get a crit so you lose half your hp and mp taking out that set of illusions...and PL can send more in another 7 or 8 seconds without getting anywhere near you. This is why this very farmed alchemist with battlefury kept losing. He beat PL, then beat PL, then did it again, then a couple more times, then again...and he was oom, his ult was over, there were still more PLs and then alch died. Meanwhile the real PL did not come into range to actually take dmg.
This is how you beat PL: pick kunkka, grab your 5 daedaluses. Crit every tidebringer hit for like 1.4k with cleave. Nice PL illusions dude and enemy team dude.
>.> What kind of PL builds blademail.... I thought we were talking about killing PL, not his whole team (though this would at the cost of your own life (: )
Of course this is silly...but since doing absurd theory crafting is entertaining sometimes...
Level 25 kunka with 5 daedaluses and shadow blade...gets a crit on 77% of attacks...so still 1/4 he does not...anyway...Kunka shadow blades in and gets a crit...tidebringer hits for 1580 hp.
Kunkka has 2354 hp. PL gets diffusal 2, 2 hearts, Butterfly, and bmail ...lets say BoT, so level 25 he has 3752 hp. Blademail returns pure dmg. One crit from Kunkka and yes the illusions are gone ....but Kunka now at 774 hp and PL has 2172 hp. PL can easily kill him with 1 spirit lance and the resulting illusions...meanwhile PL will heal back to full health in 10 seconds.
This silly illustration shows how extremely easy it can be to counter the glass cannon kunkka build pubs love...but of course no one does it. Instead they all throw up their hands and run in terror when Kunka farms up a huge amount of dmg by autoattacking and gets no defensive items.
Right and then if you try to do that...PL sends images 4 times every creep wave...which one will have the real PL who bmails and kills you? Bmail has no cast time. Do you guess and bkb the right group when you attack them?...and if you do guess right so what?! PL backs up, heals to full in 10 seconds, and comes at you again with your bkb on cd.
best counter to pl is not to let him farm enough to do the spliit push/siege
once it comes to that part of the game it becomes very difficult to stop PL
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Rattlesnake.cn Lou trys to find some way to beat late game PL....
Gets a back-up bkb....sure....then he gets a refresher and leaves it in the fountain so he can have chemical rage and teleport back up when he buys back...switches to the other bkb and ports back in
Alch sells bfly when PL gets mkb...get abysal but pajkatt ganks the courier with blink ult beastmaster so its never delivered.
8 items not enough for Alch to beat Black's PL...he needed the 9th item.