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General Discussionwhat do u guys think of EE's arc

what do u guys think of EE's arc in General Discussion
Jacked

    he goes midas and necro to farm (Sells necro 1 eventually). then its mael shivas.
    think he was copying an arc spammer who goes blink shivas

    Anomaluna

      He doesn't always sell the necro, upgrades it to level 3 sometimes. Was watching him on stream not long back and it's pretty successful, for the most part. The split push and high ground defense you can do with him is insane.

      Also, Meepo seems to be a really good counter against arc at most stages of the game.

      BSJ. LGD

        SO SMART ill copy that

        Jacked

          he uses it to farm more than anything and usually sells it for better items

          ф

            can anyone link me to his arc warden game list? I wanna see how he farms with necros

            Sia

              Holy shit thats really bad actually damn. Like if u wanna farm straight up maelstrom ffs results in faster item timings. If u wanna kill ppl which wouldnt be purpose of this item, then u go phase madness shadow blade or smth

              Sia

                I dont think so, but even if it doesnt delay his travels mjol a lot, he is putting 2 more unit controls unnecessarily to farm.

                Desolate

                  why do u even think ee is good player to look at and player overall

                  zet43dota;

                    Necro on AW is prety retarded, you can just get the mael and farm all way long and split like crazy, however it depends on the game but for my opinion thats retarded ... and dont forget , EE SAMA IS SO BAD I Was watching the stream he got the HotD and lost his BB like a retard btw he cloud win the game if he went for MKB on that game

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                      Bump, can someone link me to the matches? I can't find any

                      meteor hammer

                        people dont even think about one thing is different than another thing. so fucking stupid

                        what is the difference between farming with necro and farming with mael, can you figure out the amazing puzzle?

                        A̶𝖘𝖍𝖊𝖘

                          Exactly, I'm surprised even aw spammers don't know the difference between farming with necro and farming with mael..

                          Shou

                            wow guys u can farm enemy jungle with necro
                            think
                            however it still sounds stupid cuz the cd is retardedly long and if the enemy finds ur units its so much free gold/xp

                            core or whore

                              @jacked do you know that arc spammers profile?

                              Coroner

                                Waiting for bosnian ugliness to bliss us with some arc warden knowledge

                                Sia

                                  fuck off already dude ...

                                  Sia

                                    @jdf but does it pay back its price and/or accomplish smth great and doesnt delay other items timing?

                                    meteor hammer

                                      idk because ive never used it or seen someone use it, but saying mael does the same thing is retarded

                                      could a lvl 1 necro repay itself? possibly. its kinda like midas except it pushes lanes, if ur into that it gives you some good ability to shove lanes out with ult before lvl 20, because the creeps last for a long ass time and u get 2x usage, plus even a lvl 1 necro is strong at killing towers if theres 2 of them

                                      meteor hammer

                                        its certainly a way to get a lot of lane creeps without showing on the map or having any risk at all, idk people standing under enemy t2 slapping lane creeps with their maelstrom, but u can do that shit with necro easily

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                                        🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                          necro used to be actually good when you can rip apart backdoor protection with rapiers

                                          other than that, almost every arc goes brown boot into maelstorm into mjolnir, rareley they get bots before mjolnir

                                          as MJOLNIR is just way too good of a teamfight item.

                                          i haven't seen his games, so can someone link them so i can give an actual opinion.

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                                          Sia

                                            i dont like the idea of feeding enemy 2 necro gold

                                            meteor hammer

                                              so dont feed them

                                              Shou

                                                Necros require constant monitoring so u don't feed them, and tbh The CD is so fucking long
                                                Like, can't u just send the double down a lane?
                                                Even that thing gives less gold than necros and can defend itself.

                                                meteor hammer

                                                  necro units last 3x as long and have about 2x the cd, also you are still using your clone it's not one or the other

                                                  🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                    it's stupid imo, because you can clear a wave then mjolnir the first creep and that'll kill 2-3 creepwaves(depends how/when you timed it).

                                                    The Quantum

                                                      cookie strim today ?

                                                      Jacked

                                                        I mean yea u guys should watch it. He seems to farm absurdly fast with necros. He still goes mjolnir. That's pretty much core item. No necro doesn't replace it.

                                                        Jacked

                                                          Why would he feed them if he uses them to farm like illusion heroes do in the jungle

                                                          Jacked

                                                            But some would say Ee is bad arc lul

                                                            Jacked

                                                              Try searching his games on YouTube. I don't have a link cuz I saw it a few times on stream

                                                              烟雨花

                                                                when u stream u want to show something different.
                                                                that part of entertaining.

                                                                zet43dota;

                                                                  the difference about the mjoll and a fucking necro is that u will have that CD and if ur the enemies kill your necros theh get pretty much gold, and mjoll is way better pushing the lanes and using mjoll on creep it will clear 3 creeps for sure like CUKI said that in a reply in this post, and u have better teamfights like the Attack speed and the magnetic field too.

                                                                  zet43dota;

                                                                    and for the EE sama arc game check on twitch, the video is not on YT

                                                                    🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                      give the goddamn match id

                                                                      zet43dota;

                                                                        sec checking for it

                                                                        zet43dota;
                                                                          meteor hammer

                                                                            u still have this mindset hes replacing mj with necro. he probably gets a similar mj/mj+pike timing with the necro1 first

                                                                            evy

                                                                              I doubt it's as bad as his "solar crest on every hero" back then

                                                                              meteor hammer

                                                                                solar crest on every hero was fucking legit im actually triggered people think otherwise

                                                                                Shou

                                                                                  Solar crest ember
                                                                                  It was actually so funny
                                                                                  Blademail solar crest radiance ee sama ember

                                                                                  meteor hammer

                                                                                    the item gave 12 armor and a fuckton of evasion and could be disassembled, literally made you immune to physical damage

                                                                                    i only had to get smashed by crest rush sf once to realize that the item was busted on carries as well as support

                                                                                    Desolate

                                                                                      crest is best ite in doto
                                                                                      forced heroes like ta anti etc to go monkey king bar who gives no stats an survie just a ministun 6k gold

                                                                                      EtoroAbasi

                                                                                        @cookie what is the greatest counter to arc warden? is centaur warchief one of them?

                                                                                        meteor hammer

                                                                                          blademail is obnoxious

                                                                                          🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                                            brood meepo riki

                                                                                            centaur is obnoxious but you never focus a centaur in a fight, you just ignore him, so he's not a counter.

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                                                                                            Jacked

                                                                                              what about lycan

                                                                                              Jacked

                                                                                                and yea he doesnt replace mjolnir u fooools

                                                                                                SweetSaucey

                                                                                                  whats the most number of actives anyone has ever played aw with (minus bots)? which ones are top 6?

                                                                                                  金所炫

                                                                                                    @seasame: mjo, lothars, pike, hex, bloodthorn, bkb, blink

                                                                                                    someone

                                                                                                      Dude who said that maelstrom is faster farming than necro 1 XXXDDDDDDDDD why can't you have all your dota accounts deleted please

                                                                                                      Shou

                                                                                                        @yua
                                                                                                        Stop saying lothars
                                                                                                        Not everyone lives in 2012 on this forum and knows what that means
                                                                                                        Ty