just a reminder benao: i didnt get rekt by panda, we killed him once with witchdoctor and i think i outlasthitted him too. too bad theres no replay, but the game was streamed by some russians. also we got steamrolled by the lycan (even if he had a bad start), panda doesnt really need anything to fight besides blink and maybe arcanes, so even if i win lane he still does good, because lycan gives him gold from towers and roshan. i can somewhat agree tho that iwin4arka shouldnt have lost lane to puck lol
also, we were nowhere as close to vegas level
and for the record, i didnt claim i would beat panda, because it was picked after ta
ZAI is not the weak link of team secret. its the greedyboy, RTZ. too many silly mistakes, but thx to puppey and kky they've managed to cover those idiotic somehow. someday he will destroy the team from inside-out.
panda was first pick, ta was last pick -> asked by you to deal with the panda issue when we already had my drow for that.
panda steamrolled with tons of shit, appearing with dagger on us that were xp poor and was unkillable. Lycan was a nonfactor cause he couldnt get close, same with the rest of their trilane. Panda and puck paved the way after disastrous laning by you and arka.
Why are you discussing a game you played ages ago that is fuckin irrelevant. You're all shit so its stupidly ridiclous that you're fuckin talking about it now
yeah just as i thought trying to argue with you was a mistake cause you're so fucking delusional and full of shit. im 100% sure i didnt ask for lanaya do deal with panda, thats just fucking stupid, and im also 100% sure my laning was far from being disastrous. also can you please explain to me how ur drow was supposed to "deal" with a panda? and by the way, 1st picking phase was puck+support, 2nd was lycan+suppot, and we had first pick in the last picking phase, thats when we picked lanaya because it was supposed to win the lane against puck, then they picked panda and put puck on offlane. but your amazing dota 2 analyzing skills probably didnt think of that. better go tell us how trax destroys sf mid, how sumail is a bad player and how s4 (which is probably the best player in the world) is the weak link in secret's team. ye ye
not even worth replying when he lies like that, or doesnt remember and still talks - im like whatever man, not like i expected much anyway. He got to enjoy what it is to win with a team behind him, mostly me behind him, timing shit perfectly in every fight so he could do whatever and not get punished but wait, im the noob here, i just talk out of my ass.
on topic
hope VP gets raped today and they end up in the loser bracket so my prediction about VP bottom 2 is correct. All my energy with notail today... i felt sad with the video and about the FINALs comment to his dad...followed by his dad crying :'(
as for the qualifiers... i was "hoping" for mvp and vega :p
Did you legitemately put CDEC last in wild card? They were expected to have chances for direct invite, and by everyone classified as the strongest in the wild card by far, that sure is interesting
yeah, i felt the final from the chinese qualifiers was awful dota, didnt expect them to do anything this TI (top8), those both chinese teams. ehome and cdec i thnk?.
It would be considered an upset if CDEC didn't get first in wildcard, and you even put NA trash, Archon, Nar'Vi, North American Rejects, ahead of them?
If they are decent? I never commented on their skill level, I said they were considered a candidate to TI direct invite, and expected highly to get TOP1 in WILDCARD -> Else an upset
I'm commenting on your ability to predict, not how good or bad a team is.
i said i HOPED for them to no qualify and EXPECT the 2 chinese teams from the qualifiers to be trash in the main event! (in case the second one won the wildcard)
the qualis one yes. I do the same with world cup matches... i bet for my team even though they are the underdog cause i cant bet against them :D -> kind of thing.
Am i the only one who thinks LGD will be top3? Well not really, even rtz said in the interview with Hot_Bid that he wouldnt be surprised if Secret gets to play the final, and he also expects LGD or VG to be there so it could be anyone's game.
I really think LGD is a very disciplined team and have the right composition of experience from Yao, MMY,Xiao8, Sylar, and the talent from Maybe. I am waiting for their tonight game vs IG to see if i am right :)
i hadnt watched lgd play before... nice call on the invite there. They've been playing nice. I still only really care about secret though ^^! hope jerax, notail and fly do good though. Bet some decent rares on complexity vs navi today ;D
@sano its all about playoffs dude. Groups dont matter much. Worst team bottom with a ticket home and best teams top with good seeding. Teams able to stand their ground in playoffs advance, those that don't byebye. Remember how the americans beat the chinese in the lower bracket that time? (ti3?). Its all about who can beat who when it matters. I think ig has what it takes to not get beaten early on. but imo the teams are pretty even...playoffs are gonna be so much fun!
c9 loser bracket early on, beat empire there, etc to get back on track. VG met eg or secret early on -> LB they meet C9 -> end 6th. Smth similar with newbee and we got iG vs c9 for top 3. iG beat them and the rest is history.
these are the playoff brackets --> it is possible, even more so with how c9 and empire are playing. Maybe not exactly but very similar dont you think?
Sunneiko, I really shouldnt tell u, but Dendi and xboct are actually normal skill bracket. they just didnt want u to join team secret and lied to u about their skills.
and people keep saying ember is good. he's had what... like 5 games? with mushi on it and still i see no early rape like they claim it is easily possible. L2P and grats c9 gogo
Thing is, they fucked up that game greatly ->typical c9. They lost the same way to iG or VG a while back, also rape lane advantage but kept feeding ember... Typically even though he's a good highground defense, ember shouldve lost but thats just how games are. And in no way was the hero imba or good dont you think so? Are you aiming at losing and deffing base every game to make a comeback ember win? dont think so.
abysal is the better alternative
^probably true. we saw it picked up by LGD against c9 too
xD
just a reminder benao: i didnt get rekt by panda, we killed him once with witchdoctor and i think i outlasthitted him too. too bad theres no replay, but the game was streamed by some russians. also we got steamrolled by the lycan (even if he had a bad start), panda doesnt really need anything to fight besides blink and maybe arcanes, so even if i win lane he still does good, because lycan gives him gold from towers and roshan. i can somewhat agree tho that iwin4arka shouldnt have lost lane to puck lol
also, we were nowhere as close to vegas level
and for the record, i didnt claim i would beat panda, because it was picked after ta
ZAI is not the weak link of team secret. its the greedyboy, RTZ. too many silly mistakes, but thx to puppey and kky they've managed to cover those idiotic somehow. someday he will destroy the team from inside-out.
^
salt
panda was first pick, ta was last pick -> asked by you to deal with the panda issue when we already had my drow for that.
panda steamrolled with tons of shit, appearing with dagger on us that were xp poor and was unkillable. Lycan was a nonfactor cause he couldnt get close, same with the rest of their trilane. Panda and puck paved the way after disastrous laning by you and arka.
Why are you discussing a game you played ages ago that is fuckin irrelevant. You're all shit so its stupidly ridiclous that you're fuckin talking about it now
LGD playing well as I expected. EG fucking up.
yeah just as i thought trying to argue with you was a mistake cause you're so fucking delusional and full of shit. im 100% sure i didnt ask for lanaya do deal with panda, thats just fucking stupid, and im also 100% sure my laning was far from being disastrous. also can you please explain to me how ur drow was supposed to "deal" with a panda? and by the way, 1st picking phase was puck+support, 2nd was lycan+suppot, and we had first pick in the last picking phase, thats when we picked lanaya because it was supposed to win the lane against puck, then they picked panda and put puck on offlane. but your amazing dota 2 analyzing skills probably didnt think of that. better go tell us how trax destroys sf mid, how sumail is a bad player and how s4 (which is probably the best player in the world) is the weak link in secret's team. ye ye
these discussions are so good. ofc offtopic, but hell u guys are entertaining. moar pls. my popcorn is baking!
Gotto second Hush here, ROFL
not even worth replying when he lies like that, or doesnt remember and still talks - im like whatever man, not like i expected much anyway. He got to enjoy what it is to win with a team behind him, mostly me behind him, timing shit perfectly in every fight so he could do whatever and not get punished but wait, im the noob here, i just talk out of my ass.
on topic
hope VP gets raped today and they end up in the loser bracket so my prediction about VP bottom 2 is correct. All my energy with notail today... i felt sad with the video and about the FINALs comment to his dad...followed by his dad crying :'(
as for the qualifiers... i was "hoping" for mvp and vega :p
i hope we see some sf madness sb crit skady plays!!!!!!!!! and some drow picks!!! and some drow vs sf mid matchup
Did you legitemately put CDEC last in wild card? They were expected to have chances for direct invite, and by everyone classified as the strongest in the wild card by far, that sure is interesting
yeah, i felt the final from the chinese qualifiers was awful dota, didnt expect them to do anything this TI (top8), those both chinese teams. ehome and cdec i thnk?.
It would be considered an upset if CDEC didn't get first in wildcard, and you even put NA trash, Archon, Nar'Vi, North American Rejects, ahead of them?
Looks like u were just gambling to me
@dd dont you remember the chinese finals? it was awful dota :D.
and notice they only played and beat mvp hot 6 yesterday -> team coming from qualifiers. We will see if you're right or am i about how they do
No? and right about what?
if they are decent and amount to anything. they may end up bottom 2 too (like vp)
If they are decent? I never commented on their skill level, I said they were considered a candidate to TI direct invite, and expected highly to get TOP1 in WILDCARD -> Else an upset
I'm commenting on your ability to predict, not how good or bad a team is.
i said i HOPED for them to no qualify and EXPECT the 2 chinese teams from the qualifiers to be trash in the main event! (in case the second one won the wildcard)
So basically you gambled with your prediction?
the qualis one yes. I do the same with world cup matches... i bet for my team even though they are the underdog cause i cant bet against them :D -> kind of thing.
Am i the only one who thinks LGD will be top3? Well not really, even rtz said in the interview with Hot_Bid that he wouldnt be surprised if Secret gets to play the final, and he also expects LGD or VG to be there so it could be anyone's game.
I really think LGD is a very disciplined team and have the right composition of experience from Yao, MMY,Xiao8, Sylar, and the talent from Maybe. I am waiting for their tonight game vs IG to see if i am right :)
Uncertain about top 2-6, can be anyone honestly. I don't actually think Secret will win, but if they will mb I get some ez compendium levels on smurf
iG 3rd? C9 4th? Newbee 5th? wtf are those predictions benao
i hadnt watched lgd play before... nice call on the invite there. They've been playing nice. I still only really care about secret though ^^! hope jerax, notail and fly do good though. Bet some decent rares on complexity vs navi today ;D
@sano its all about playoffs dude. Groups dont matter much. Worst team bottom with a ticket home and best teams top with good seeding. Teams able to stand their ground in playoffs advance, those that don't byebye. Remember how the americans beat the chinese in the lower bracket that time? (ti3?). Its all about who can beat who when it matters. I think ig has what it takes to not get beaten early on. but imo the teams are pretty even...playoffs are gonna be so much fun!
think like this:
c9 loser bracket early on, beat empire there, etc to get back on track. VG met eg or secret early on -> LB they meet C9 -> end 6th. Smth similar with newbee and we got iG vs c9 for top 3. iG beat them and the rest is history.
these are the playoff brackets --> it is possible, even more so with how c9 and empire are playing. Maybe not exactly but very similar dont you think?
Last minute I put navi getting 4th.....
"also, we were nowhere as close to vegas level"
That's more than obvious to every at least average intelligent person, except Benao. Oh wait... I suggest you go visit a doctor.
Anyway, C9 looking quite strong, i wonder how they'll do vs stronger teams, since Fnatic is gonna be bottom 6 imho.
didnt fnatic win against secret
c9 fangays rejoyce
Sunneiko, I really shouldnt tell u, but Dendi and xboct are actually normal skill bracket. they just didnt want u to join team secret and lied to u about their skills.
thank god EE
Mushit = Malayshit SwiftRage
and people keep saying ember is good. he's had what... like 5 games? with mushi on it and still i see no early rape like they claim it is easily possible. L2P and grats c9 gogo
Complexity doing well makes me happy. followed them since hon, but gotta love moon and fly
swindle is such a slimy bastard though.
i forgot to accept the trade... In the case col wins 2-0 i just lost ~$20
[color=#239edd]I knew Na'Vi was bad. But I didn't realize they were this bad[/color]
Did you see the game Maybe played Ember?
This was a poor performance by Mushi and probably not the right game for the Ember pick.
hmm which one was that? the one with the dagger? he had his base raped that game too am i right?
LGD cs C9 game 1 yeah. The one they made a huge comeback, he really played well that game.
the worst part of TI is that i actually want to play some dota... but i cant cause I want to watch
Thing is, they fucked up that game greatly ->typical c9. They lost the same way to iG or VG a while back, also rape lane advantage but kept feeding ember... Typically even though he's a good highground defense, ember shouldve lost but thats just how games are. And in no way was the hero imba or good dont you think so? Are you aiming at losing and deffing base every game to make a comeback ember win? dont think so.
every time navi plays theres like 200k people watching them, but they are so shit
[color=#239edd]That S4 video BibleThump[/color]