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General DiscussionHow to make ember playable again?

How to make ember playable again? in General Discussion
Shou

    I want bae back

    Dragy10

      speaking of things that shouldn't be used:
      the word "bae", when such a word enters the mainstream of a civilized society, you know the fall of that society isn't far away

      Shou

        Oh that is founded upon highly sound logic, I shall replace said barbaric terminology with a far more classy and appropriate word. Herefore, in replacement of the anagram "bae", which stands for "before anyone else", I shall hereby use the anagram "twaicptmh", which has the meaning, "thou who art in closest proximity to my heart". I believe with this shift in my vocabulary, I can forever delay what many believe to be inevitable: the down fall of modern society as we know it. Truly a highly sophisticated term as this should designate me as someone worthy of the appraisal of such an honorable man as @Dragy10. Thine advice has been unto me like the blessing of God. In fact, I may indeed begin to worship thee as a holy deity, for no one but God may pronounce wisdom so divine. For raising me out of the shoes of the commoners, and placing me into the slippers of a king, thou may haveth my utmost gratitude.

        ywn

          Thats not an anagram u ANIMAL

          one syllable anglo-saxon

            yeah its called a palindrome

            Suck my tiny curry dick

              I know how you feel. I want bae back.

              Dragy10

                "twaicptmh" shall not be said either. I thought you were part of the solution but you are contributing to the problem.
                Also, it is not the fall of "modern" society, but society at large, for those who utter such words will perish with it upon its destruction.

                Dragy10

                  how many grams is an anagram tho?

                  Chiquita

                    Ana sounds like a 14 year old girl so i would say she weighs probably 100 lbs which is 45359 grams

                    Totentanz to The King: M ...

                      ember wont be fine when this dual lane meta is a thing. he is a melee agi hero with 0 armor. he also gets fucked in mid by almost every hero. he can still be good as a last pick though in a good lane matchup (which is like almost non-existant)

                      Chiquita

                        honestly i think heroes like Ember just need new items. Meteor Hammer has sprung a wave of new playstyles and made some supports a lot more viable, Aeon Disk made some supports a little more playable. we just need some early item that can redeem ember without being oppressively powerful like pms

                        Shou

                          im not smart enough to know the word for that anyway, and ur not telling me what is so whatever

                          i think ember talents got overnerfed, theyre literally so fucking trash rn
                          what if u could make RoPx2 + stout, and it gave bonus 3ish armor, but when u get hit by a hero, it would remove 1 armor for a couple seconds, up to however much bonus armor the item gave u.
                          or maybe RoP + RingofRegen + branchx2 and it gave u 2 stats, 1.75 hp regen or 3 armor, and it had a toggle that you could trade 0.75 regen for 1 armor or the other way around, but the toggle had a 5-10 second cd

                          Dragy10

                            never forgetti

                            i dont like cats

                              go veil and get helm early?
                              gives hp regen and armour.

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                              Shou

                                helm is too late and also the big gay

                                JDF8

                                  in case anyones not being ironic itS A FUCKING ACRONYM

                                  Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                    he removed pms for a reason, he wont release another item similar to it.

                                    Shou

                                      I need pms in my life
                                      What kind of balance change is "remove an item, idc if a hero literally depends on it LOOL"
                                      Im still mad

                                      Also ty @blood you are twaicptmh

                                      Shou

                                        Maybe instead of an item, ember just needs some hp Regen increase I think

                                        JDF8

                                          wait two months for valve to do this

                                          Ember spirit:

                                          Sleight of fist scaling changed from 30/60/90/120 to 50/75/100/125

                                          Base armor increased by 2

                                          Ember spirit:

                                          Sleight of fist cooldown rescaled from 30/22/14/6 to 21/16/11/6

                                          Ember spirit:

                                          +50 flame guard DPS talent removed. New talent: +20% cleave

                                          Ember spirit:

                                          Base hp regen increased by 1.25 (2.0 to 3.25)

                                          pingwin

                                            Idk ember has 3.4 armor now lvl 1. If you think thata too little, ypu can start with stout, ring of protection, quelling blade of you're mid.

                                            pingwin

                                              If they reduced flame guard cd by 5 sec, it would be awesome. Also that spell amp talent is so little for lvl 20 they should maybe swap it with one of the lvl 15 talents.

                                              Rocket

                                                I think he needs a bit of a rework. Sleight of fist is too hard to balance. Maybe make it fixed damage rather than scaling with items? Talents can buff it for late game.

                                                Bill Cutting

                                                  Is he unplayable tho, watched 7Mad playing ember safelane last night and he rekt

                                                  Shou

                                                    He is unplayable mid and even safelane he loses most 1v1s
                                                    I think his armor is ok but having more would be a big help
                                                    SoF is fine, it's not that relevant of an ability in lane and that's his biggest problem

                                                    MysteriousMeow

                                                      Well wait for next patch.

                                                      FleurDeLys

                                                        He’s fine if u know how to play him.
                                                        Bye

                                                        Ontosoroh

                                                          loveable

                                                          Shou

                                                            I played ember against alch mid and felt fine (ty icefrog for +1 armor Kappa), but still lost later in the game because I couldn't hit buildings.