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General DiscussionIs this new account a lost cause?

Is this new account a lost cause? in General Discussion
Knifepony

    Yo, chill man.
    Max callibration is 3.5k, seems like you got lower than that.
    Your mmr will adjust to within 100-400mmr to where you should be in a week, a month at most, with your current rate of play.

    Friday

      All normal skill, man. I've got no problem but game play-wise you know you've improved as a support player. As seen in the kda. Also, if I reached the point when I can calibrate (10 games), will playing it right away differ from when I should just wait to see if my 'skill' from normal game got to at least 'high' or 'very high' (miraculously) then I calibrate?

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      Jacked

        Make a new account until u can get VHS within the third game.

        TANG INA MO VIO

          The first 10 games are critical/crucial. If you dont get HS or VHS you wont calibrate at high mmr.

          lol

            Get a new account, play mid/carry roles (but dont mid with 2-3 -_-, better go off/safe or even jungle if others are noob, but at the same time don't let them feed too much by ganking or fake tping in case they are getting killed)... mostly some heroes with mobility... AoE heroes are great too... focus on winning rather that KDA... achieve ur goal once u win some team fights... for first 25 games go for turbo mode since only few heroes are allowed for the first 25 games, turbo will get u over those in like 25*20 mins (avg). See that u get atleast HS/VHS in buff...

            Friday

              Here is the new one, GG new account. I do not know anymore. Just high skill maybe, but no. https://www.dotabuff.com/players/852522418

              Raffaello

                If you're a 2k scrub, creating new accounts won't make you 4k+. Easy as that

                Avv. Fabio ciulla

                  well I believe there s something wrong with the new account..it s jsut a matter of luck for the first 10 games... those KDA shows that he s capable of playing what he plays as support!!! thats weird he doesnt get HS.

                  I opened a topic few days ago...same here... WD support 25 matches 72% of win rate( above 80 % first games) didnt see high skills as well... matter of luck man!!! u will get there maybe in 100 games...otherwise create another account and try again...luck and luck

                  Cheesy Wenis

                    What if KDA is only a very small part of the equation.

                    Friday

                      Calibrated at 3400-3500 always, no more no less back when numerical MMR is still the bracket. This is my first time creating a new account this season and is now very curius about dota buff. I read the threads and tried it out for the first time. Even if I am a 2k those stats, are pretty high, no deaths, and a support (always) at that. Not to go off-topic, my only concern is where is the high skill? Even once? It's my 2nd new account this season, as a support, 25 games, kda similar to those stats but just normal skill. :(

                      Friday

                        And not to mention, I won the games. Damn.

                        Avv. Fabio ciulla

                          well if KDA is just a small part of the equation whar does count for support???

                          I am a legend 5 player with 3.2k mmr solo and around 4k party mmr, playing mainly position 3 and 4. I just wanted to try to calibrate a new dota account to see what i could achieve. Let me tell you that what i am seeing it is being pretty weird because if you play support and you get KDA above 4 (carry kda) and you always are among the top damages of the match, top kills and assist..well to me it means that you know what you are doing!!!! can you play 25 games not knowing what you do and having these results? well i strongly believe it s not possible! I close a game with WD 10 0 20! LOL

                          so basically you are saying that if you lose your kda matters but if you win it s a small part of equation?? I just come to a conclusion that when you set a new account and you click " I already played at dota", after that you ll start a random match and will put u above 2k, randomly (could be also 3.5 or 4) depending on the queue...

                          if you start at 2k, even though you play well you can gain some 100,150 mmr per game which doesnt bring you above 3.2k /HS)...
                          if you start at 3k you can gain some 100 per match and after few matches be High skils...

                          My 2 cents guys... I have seen weird stuff lately in dota... my adivce?? try a new account and if u dont get HS after 3 games dont bother ...yoiu cant get HS in that account..

                          Cheesy Wenis

                            This is my first time creating a new account this season
                            It's my 2nd new account this season

                            Wait a minute ...

                            so basically you are saying that if you lose your kda matters but if you win it s a small part of equation??

                            What? No. You have a great KDA but it's clearly not having an enormous affect on whether you are in Normal/High/Very High skill games. Maybe we should remove our assumptions of how the system SHOULD work and just look at what actually appears to be affecting it.

                            That said, it does look like you hit the calibration cap in spite of being Normal skill. Maybe the system doesn't bump you out of Normal games until you've hit some minimum threshold of games played, or it uses data that isn't exposed to us to determine your skill group. Maybe MMR, medals, and Normal/High skill don't affect each other as closely as we thought. Is it possible for a 2k mmr player to get High skill games while a 3.5k mmr player gets Normal skill games?

                            Just thinking out loud here man. I don't have the answers.

                            Friday

                              Hmm. Thanks for the input. Hehe.
                              I am now able to play ranked game after 36 games. Will calibrate later and see what bracket I belong to with these stats, for a support player. Will update asap.

                              Jacked

                                you got high kda, but you were not hte most impactful. meaning you got carried. lul

                                Friday

                                  Of course you are gonna get carried, you are a support, man. WTH. You give the kill to your carries, you stack creeps, you gank, you respond, you heal, you disable, you ward. Your logic is the support life. o.O

                                  Friday

                                    Since when did you hear carries got carried? That's why they are carries. GGWP.

                                    AniEtieNteAbasi

                                      normal skil.l..

                                      Jacked

                                        I get carried by my team all the time

                                        adsa21313132

                                          You suck

                                          Watashi

                                            Normal Skill bracket is a low mmr acc

                                            Dstryr-

                                              The important thing here is the HERO DAMGE and team fights. Thats all! I got HS on my 3rd game babe in my another acc but my 1st and 2nd games were bad performance. Hahaha

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                                              Jacked

                                                Your new account sucks.

                                                chat banned :)

                                                  Look at my acc dude i always lose haha still vhs and paired with ancient and divine players

                                                  ImpossibleParadox

                                                    Dude, it seems like volvo tracks your ip (i mean for everyone) , and if you had an 1k account when you create another steam account and play dota, you will start at that mmr, thats the reason all smurf accounts of pro-players start at vhs in the very fisrt game.

                                                    Cheesy Wenis

                                                      It's common knowledge that volvo activates your computer's webcam and mic for facial/sound recognition, then plugs that into the matchmaker to remove smurfs.

                                                      Caliber99

                                                        is my account a lost cause also?

                                                        Jetty

                                                          You lost 9 straight games on NS and with horrible stats too. So yeshhh.

                                                          Caliber99

                                                            its onlly in turbo mode
                                                            does it affect?
                                                            i saw someone with bad kdr and 40% winrate calibrate at legend 2

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                                                            Thanos

                                                              you'd most likely end up as an archon

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                                                                ]-str1KINGdistance>>

                                                                  Same situations here, i guess it is because of our e-mail accounts. I used the same gmail acc. from my old one to create this smurf.and my old acc. Is just an archon[5] @ normal skill bracket.