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General DiscussionMost game changing spell

Most game changing spell in General Discussion
father

    Spell that, if you execute it nicely it will make you win the game or comeback from losing. But if executed poorly will make you lose the game or make the enemy capable of comeback.

    I think its either song of siren or winter curse. What are the others

    Stone Cold Steve Austin

      Blackhole, reverse polarity.
      Though they don't have the "game losing" side, so nevermind.

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      takodoro

        Teleport

        Dogwater

          Meteor hammer kappa.

          Already mentioned. Black hole, or RP. RP being more reliable

          Pale Mannie

            flaming lasso. either you grip both cores with aghs and shred them apart or you die before you could kidnap them. i've won and lost some games like this already

            Cнейкмонгер

              sunder

              Friendly player

                Chronosphere, surprised no one said that.

                EL

                  Relocate

                  69 god

                    Sanity's eclipse, echo slam if executed correctly :)

                    Cancer Malaria

                      Rubick - spell steal

                      ETd

                        You could easily argue any of the big teamfight ults, like ravage, RP, black hole, etc

                        xmelesiox

                          Um... Well the most Game Winning AND Game Losing spell I would have to say is Nether Swap. You can Nether Swap and grab a tasty core to start the fight OR you can nether swap a f'in Enigma into your 4 holed together team and kill everyone.

                          Na`Vi.Miracle-

                            Techies Remote mines

                            Zemo-san

                              toss, x marks the spot, relocate

                              Chao Vritra

                                black hole hands down has to be the most game changing ultimate. I suppose you could apply the same logic to other massive AOE disables but black hole seems to be the strongest. Man I need to start playing enigma...anyone ever offlane with him? Is jungle still viable on a 4 support?

                                CoL.Limmp

                                  Magnus bf build

                                  Bill Cutting

                                    Chrono and song of the siren for me...

                                    Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                      cold embrace, disruption, astral imprisonment, snowball

                                      Humanoids

                                        For sure Meat Hook.

                                        schrand

                                          People are flaming me for bad Chronospheres

                                          Fee Too Pee

                                            Tornado

                                            Its a really good initiation spell with little risk

                                            But at the same thing it can screw up your teammate combo real quick

                                            頭と棒の袋

                                              For the game winner and game losing one prob chronosphere, banish spells (sd disruption, od)

                                              For the pure game changer would be the big teamfight ults e.g. ravage, blackhole, RP, ET ult, also if there id enough followup then vacuum

                                              JDF8

                                                given this criteria

                                                if you execute it nicely it will make you win the game or comeback from losing.

                                                But if executed poorly will make you lose the game or make the enemy capable of comeback.

                                                Tidebringer

                                                low prio master

                                                  I lost/won hundreds of games by bad/genius relocate - sometimes bad-genius move is very close to each other.I did kill my carry by relocating many times in these hundreds of games but also win games.I think relocate is most "responsible" spell in the game.

                                                  chicken spook,,,,

                                                    Chronosphere and song of the siren are probably the ones that can cost your team the game the most

                                                    Dogwater

                                                      Shadow demon 7 second disruption lmao. Banish your core until fight ends

                                                      A

                                                        any invo spell

                                                        yorgaSh

                                                          Chronosphere by a large margin; way easier to mess up, and even more impactful than Song of Siren.

                                                          marko

                                                            Chronosphere and Snowball. Seriously, tusk's snowball can be deadly for both sides.

                                                            ur parents r siblings

                                                              Kot'sl recall, chen spell to send some1 home, winter wyvern heal and curse

                                                              Dogwater

                                                                Member this? I member

                                                                Shou

                                                                  Chrono is the biggest offender imo

                                                                  Meme

                                                                    If I had a dime for every time someone tornadoed two or three heroes that were called and eating Axe spins.

                                                                    ii

                                                                      headshot

                                                                      Mekarazium
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                                                                        Putsy McCoy

                                                                          Wall of Replica can be so underwhelming of you overestimated your opponent’s farm. Or too early in the midgame. Younand the weak ass illusions will just be stuck between all the enemy heroes

                                                                          one syllable anglo-saxon

                                                                            glyph 😎

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                                                                            dont be thrilled by this ...

                                                                              chrono is a double edge spell ..... cast well, a fat void can wipe enemy, beside his team is helping tho ...
                                                                              cast bad and youre done: let me example ... i was playing void the other day, there was sf with aghs and bkb and blink, he jumped on us, activated bkb and was casting ult, as there was no cancelling spell that pierces bkb among us, i panicked and cast chrono but i was late for 0.00001 sec and requiem was alrdy on way, i trapped 4 of my mates and we got hit by 1.5X requiem and ez rampge for sf :D anyway we managed to win the game ...

                                                                              despair

                                                                                Relocate, very game changing when u can save an ally, game changing too if you use it to teleport your core into the enemy fountain ;). An example of a double-edged spell

                                                                                Peekaboo

                                                                                  Guardian Angel - Teamfight turnaround
                                                                                  Global silence - hardest spell to execute correctly IMO
                                                                                  Disruption/Shallowgrave/false promise - Turns a lost fight into a won fight

                                                                                  Song of the siren - Hands down, the strongest spell in the game in the correct environment (sleep heros and take a rax, nullify enemy initations)

                                                                                  Melt

                                                                                    i'd put winters curse on top because it has alot of utility.

                                                                                    simply cancel a tp
                                                                                    save yourself
                                                                                    save a teammate
                                                                                    setup a fight
                                                                                    reset a fight
                                                                                    turn a fight
                                                                                    fight a fight
                                                                                    fight a turn
                                                                                    turnup a set
                                                                                    wait what

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