General DiscussionThere is no such thing as an unwinnable game....

Please. Stop. You're 3k after 6,000 games. You have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to winning or determining a game's outcome. Few 6k+ players have figured that shit out, let alone you, or me.

Please stop what? right, i do not understand what I am talking about. that is why I make topics on dotabuff, to learn. I already recognize my pick as being a bad choice but I am just trying to establish if this game was winnable in any way with that specific composition in that specific circumstance. This isn't an 'I am amazing and my team is newb feeders why i lose' topic. I am looking for insight as to what I could have done differently this game.

And yes I am 3k after 6000 games. But that does not discourage me I know someone who climbed from 3k to 5k in 3 months after being 3k for 5 years of playing dota. Also I have been a pretty casual player most of my career and played with a consistent 5 stack for years and we played for fun.

There are a lot of Games that are unwinnable in fair match mAking. You wouldn't know how to win it but a 6k would.

@stentorian teach me dotska pls

Yeah, that is mostly why I made this thread (Though I did make it right after the game so I was venting and a bit angry when I made it lol...) But I assumed a high MMR player would have known how to win the game, despite some intentional feeding from weaver. Just trying to figure out what I could have done differently.

At the very least like I said it has definitely made me want to spam my main less and start picking later and trying to pick stronger.

Well, im single supporting 1st pick am luna sf and single supporting 4 carry last game,and they trashtalking with alien language too

I feel your pain brother

Apparently you need to be 5k+ with under 1000 hours on dota to give your opinion on any topic in this forum. Even more cancerous than dota itself

I would have focused mid because invoker is the easiest target for you and to help sf snowball while invoker plays catch up = ez win. Instead Somehow sf had a really bad game and invoker was farmed Af. This does not make sense to me at all. Unless it was like a 3v1 with omni and silencer or something?

I would focus on this aspect and say this is where you coulda really stepped it up. Who cares what weaver was doing.

Just move on

u are just a noob m8

I would have focused mid because invoker is the easiest target for you and to help sf snowball while invoker plays catch up = ez win. Instead Somehow sf had a really bad game and invoker was farmed Af. This does not make sense to me at all. Unless it was like a 3v1 with omni and silencer or something?

I would focus on this aspect and say this is where you coulda really stepped it up. Who cares what weaver was doing.

Well this is the problem with games like this. It was not even the feeding weaver that ruined the game. It was the fact that shadow fiend was stopping his game to type to the weaver. That was more harmful to us than the bad weaver himself.

And yeah I should not have made this topic directly after the game it came off as a venty complaining about dota topic. I did not really intend for that, I am over it now obviously but I am still curious as to what I could have done differently in case I run into this situation again.

Like I said I realize a high MMR player would know a way to win with the same hero in the same circumstance. I just want to try to learn a little bit of that even if it means I only understand 1 percent of it and 99 percent of it is foreign to me. That is all the more I have learned about dota.

bad draft = ez lose. end of story ... u can only win with bad draft if enemy players act very poor. otherwise if all players are sane and have good supps on both teams, bad draft leads to lose no matter how hard u try

@Chao_Vritra . 5k+ games and you realised it now ?!!!!!! i mean even someone who dont play the game at all is able to know that much jsut by using basic logic. i mean every 6-7 + years old , healthy mentally.

overthway c.ronaldo would have won every game in the last 3 years which he is know as the best football player in world.

It's just hilarious when normal skill people make claims like "every game is winnable".

It's like a fat guy giving advice on how to lose weight.

If you knew jack about winning, you wouldn't be below 3k.

So I hope someone else gives you the validation you badly need.

My Guess is u stayed in safelane and did nothing all game. If so u have no right to complain about sf not playing the game but typing.

There are a lot of Games that are unwinnable in fair match mAking. You wouldn't know how to win it but a 6k would.

this is a fair point

but u should be trying to play like 10k jesus descended to grant your pleb teammates mmr, not aspiring to play like the "average" player at your mmr

We have no say in what others want to aspire to. I'm sure u feel like Jesus in herald bracket tho

I mean in normal ranked games. 9 people trying to grief and me clicking spells on people isnt even dota and shouldnt count as such

I mean if u lose a game u shouldnt think “only a 7k player could win this, how sad.” instead u should ask urslef what a 7k would do that u didn’t. it doesnt always boil down to “lane better”,

u can save a game by cutting one crucial wave at 36 minutes as support ww, or buy euls on disruptor and save your pa from that 14/3/7 axe’s call by being in the right position

That's a good mindset to have. Some people would rather focus on the negative though