General Discussionplaying invoker

Do you want to learn invoker or you want to win NS games with invoker?

need robot fingers, fast decision making(which spell blah blah), high farm.

I'm not an Invoker player but you can trying learning heroes with bots first(unfair/hard).

@hartz i want to learn, i can win NS games pretty easy with heroes that i know hot to use

@i will mute i tried to play with unfair bot severral times, but i think the scenario will be really different when playing against real player

1 practice whit bots till you can cast any spell almost istant at the right moment you need ( dont be like me i practiced invoker against real players)

2 learn farming patterns and last hits for him, also the itemization its pretty variable.

3 dont move from mid till you are big, you have a pure damage global nuke whit low cd for 1 reason.

Yea dotabuff haters im 30% winrate lmao rofll bla bla bla...

robot fingers is the easiest part tbh.
whats important is that you need to memorize all your spells cooldowns, the situation in which to use these spells, on what targets what spell works best, general game sense of dota, and combine all that shit into continuous combinations of spells and actions.

invoker can 1v9 games pretty much like antimage, if you good enough

i tried invoker when i was about 2.5k

imo not worth learning unless youre at least 4k. you wont be able to use his potential without understanding the game

let invoker players do their jobs

U can ROFL stomp bots without knowing how to play, practicing against real players in unranked is better imo
It'll take u 20ish games to get a grip and 50-100 to git gud
Combos is easy part, general game knowledge about when and where to use said combos/how to farm is the hard part

During the early game stick to spells which are the strongest for the build you stick with (eg quas exort cold snap ice wall ss) also mana is an issue so you need lane sustenance. Also try to make use of all spells don't be that one invoker who never uses ice wall or forge spirits or alacrity. Then again I'm normal skill injoker so keep that in mind lel

1 practice whit bots till you can cast any spell almost istant at the right moment you need ( dont be like me i practiced invoker against real players)
2 learn farming patterns and last hits for him, also the itemization its pretty variable.
3 dont move from mid till you are big, you have a pure damage global nuke whit low cd for 1 reason.

But but but...brother, u have 35%winrate with invoker

Go perseverance and then radiance. After that get brown boots and possibly a blade mail if needed. Stay invisible and run around.

If your talking about late game invoker, basically your lineup need to be setup so your carry is the position 2 A.K.A semi carries, soc your team can take 4v5 fight at mid game. Your support also need to sacrifice tome of experience to wait you reach level 25. At early game, you need to make decision of when to join or not join teamfight, sunstrike is literally your best weapon here. Don't take any talent unless you know what your doing.

^u sometimes want to take the lvl 10 talent at 14 so u can take double forges at 15.

basically your lineup need to be setup so your carry is the position 2

this is one of the reasons why you cant use his full potential below 4k. "wtf? position 2 is mid dude"

ofc you can solo carry and stomp but you actually need the space and a good lane. your team setting up sunstrike kills helps, too.
you need to have a carry who joins early fights because you dont. when i see my enemy pick am and invoker i will rotate with my supports and take all their tier 2 towers at 12minutes