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General DiscussionPredictions for buffs/nerfs next patch?

Predictions for buffs/nerfs next patch? in General Discussion
spinax

    imo it's
    Nerfs:
    Clinkz
    Necro
    SB
    Visage
    Seeker for big nerfs

    Buffs:
    SF
    Dusa
    Tusk
    Gyro
    Niax for big buffs
    Any Thoughts?

    Shou

      not naix
      lifestealers in an ok spot at least for pros
      other than that i think ur good

      Riguma Borusu

        the only reason ls is even good right now is magic immunity against a lot of magic dmg heroes (and he can hit during it unlike jugg) and the fact he can fight with a handful of items

        I do not see a sensible way to nerf naix without making the hero fucking shit because the hero has a lot of problems as the game goes on

        Grimm

          Pls buff jugg

          Hans

            nerf mom
            buff vanguard

            delete techies

            Totentanz to The King: M ...

              if shaker and nightstalker dont get nerfed enough im legit quitting this game. naix is okay, he is one of the pickable carries but he will get slight buffs along with most of the other carries, enough of icefrog fucking them over

              Grimm

                don't nerf mom pls :(

                TripleSteal-

                  ns jakiro lich shaker for sure
                  necro pugna veno viper clinkz most likely
                  i dont think sf's gonna be touched at all

                  no clue about the buffs

                  Totentanz to The King: M ...

                    i have a deep feeling necro will get almost no nerfs because he wasnt even relevant in this major so we have to deal with his shit in pubs because pros dont care about him

                    one syllable anglo-saxon

                      nerf fucking bloodseeker PLEASE

                      Kruelty-

                        Not sure why you want BS to get nerfed..

                        Humanoids

                          I just hope NS, Shaker, Lich, Pugna, Visage will get a big nerf hammer. Also fuck Necro, Brood & Blood, even though they're kinda balanced, they're way too annoying to play against.

                          Humanoids

                            For buffs - Storm, Arc Warden, Tinker, SF, Lina, TA, Spectre, Jugg, Elder Titan.

                            Katniss

                              Yes buff elder titan please. Bring back the 'sleeping units can be attack by creeps and tower'.
                              Lol

                              meteor hammer

                                visage put in the dumpster hopefully

                                arin

                                  visage is not that good hero

                                  there are far more annoying heroes than him

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                                  meteor hammer

                                    thats why 4k is unwinnable once again

                                    Use chatwhell=mute

                                      Maybe buff slark and techies.

                                      RIP

                                        yes, buff slark

                                        bring back permanent essence shift.

                                        SuperMage

                                          Nerf : clinz , visag, buff: techies(he is a compeletly trash hero right now) , generaly they shoud somehoe buff magic damage heros based on magic damage gets compeletly useless at the late game so many magic damage reduction talents+ BKB

                                          H^

                                            Pudge buffs plz ty.

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                                            injoker

                                              If they change injoker i will cry

                                              Cheap Laugh Guy

                                                Buff Morphling Tiny Phoenix
                                                Rework Techies BlessRNG

                                                Zemo-san

                                                  buff:
                                                  dusa
                                                  lone druid
                                                  tony
                                                  sf
                                                  naga
                                                  tusk
                                                  puck

                                                  nerf:
                                                  necro
                                                  visage
                                                  clinkz
                                                  lich
                                                  seeker
                                                  zeus
                                                  ck
                                                  jakiro
                                                  veno

                                                  moka

                                                    I reckon medusa will be buffed and maybe tiny will get few more buffs.

                                                    Luxon

                                                      Omniknight and Necrophos always get away too easily. It's like it won't be DotA if these 2 aren't strong in pubs.
                                                      Meanwhile some heroes get dumpstered to 40% win rate when they get picked in one tournament.

                                                      Khalilov

                                                        Buff ET, winter wyvern,riki pls.I really love that heroes

                                                        Potato PC

                                                          Buff : IO and all heroes with winrate below 44%
                                                          Nerf : All heroes with 51%+ winrate

                                                          Also hope new heroes will be balanced

                                                          ScottishJabz

                                                            The Nerf-Hammer Should Hit: Necro, Lich, Pugna, Viper (probably not), Seeker (minor), Clinkz.
                                                            The Buff Cannon Will Probably Hit: Pudge (for the Arcana), Tiny, Slark (I hope not), Bara (always loves another buff), Dusa (probably due for one), Riki.
                                                            The Forgotten: Gyro, Techs, WK, Chen

                                                            I really hope they don't hammer Seeker too hard (don't get me wrong his bloodlust needs adjusted) but remember, any nerf to Seeker is effectively a buff for Slark and no-one wants to see that.

                                                            meteor hammer

                                                              Also hope new heroes will be balanced

                                                              xD

                                                              A

                                                                Buff dusa??? No pls don't bring late game carry meta

                                                                meteor hammer

                                                                  dusa probably sucks because theres 3 diffusal blades in every game xd

                                                                  meteor hammer

                                                                    clockwerk and nyx will both receive nerfs probably. rip

                                                                    Road to 1K

                                                                      Necro please, a fukin cancer hero with 1 button restore full hp.

                                                                      Stentorian

                                                                        adding to those already mentioned, tiny and magnus should be buffed

                                                                        apparently f@gnus is offensive language

                                                                        TheMaverick427

                                                                          I'm hoping to see some items like S&Y and Sheepstick buffed.
                                                                          And please nerf Diffusal and maybe manta so that every agility hero doesn't automatically build those two items regardless of the game.

                                                                          Shou

                                                                            diffusal shud be nerfed, manta is fine
                                                                            manta is good rn cuz diffusal is also good, not cuz manta needs a nerf imo

                                                                            sny is good, doesnt need a buff imo, maybe a slight one
                                                                            sheepstick needs to somehow not become uber countered by lotus, the item feels weak

                                                                            Grimm

                                                                              Change diffusal so it doesn't give agility but instead you get infinite charges with a longer cd
                                                                              This way it'll stay relevant on illu based heros, and will get back to the place it belongs

                                                                              Riguma Borusu

                                                                                just make hex undispellable by weak dispels and it's fine

                                                                                this is also a buff to shaman and lion but who cares

                                                                                Shou

                                                                                  i think diffusal shud give agi, just lowered
                                                                                  and maybe raise the mana burn a bit or smth

                                                                                  TheMaverick427

                                                                                    yeah manta is probably fine, but it might still get a slight nerf just to drive the message across. If S&Y gets buffed to being a viable alternative then manta doesn't need changes.

                                                                                    Riguma Borusu

                                                                                      ^SnY will never be a "viable alternative" to manta because they do fundamentally different things

                                                                                      Pale Mannie

                                                                                        give SnY a ministun active idk

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                                                                                        Lokieleven

                                                                                          If techies gets a buff I stop playing Dota