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meteor hammer

    is it more dps against an unprotected tower to let them recharge and attack and recharge and attack, or just have them right click forever with no damage charges

    I'm sO fUcKInG BaAd

      fuk dis hero and fuka yooooo if u pick dat fukin g4y ass fuk shit hero

      meteor hammer

        sry sir i have to win as much as possible = pick gay heroes

        meteor hammer

          не говори по РУ

            i lost the last respect for you

            meteor hammer

              :v

              meteor hammer

                not a necrophos picker at least

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                  this is assuming they already have full stacks when they start attacking the tower.
                  familiars have a BAT of 0.4 (they hit 2.5 times a second), their base damage is 10.
                  with stone form: 304 damage in the initial burst, stone form, then another 304 damage burst. this takes a total of 12.4 seconds (slightly longer because of cast time and shit) and does 608 damage.
                  without stone form: 304 damage in the initial burst (takes 3.2 seconds), then for the remaining 9.2 seconds they do 25 dps, which adds up to 534 damage over the same duration (12.4). and this is only on level 1. the gap is MUCH BIGGER in favour of using stone form for level 2/3 birds. so yes, you should be using stone form. BUT THIS IS ONLY FOR PURE DPS, STONE FORM IS STILL A UTILITY SPELL SO SAVING IT MIGHT BE THE WISER CHOICE ANYWAY

                  arin

                    ? stone form doesnt recharge the attacks

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                      LUL

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                        yeah wtf it doesnt. since when? for as long as i remember it did.
                        apparently it doesnt since 7.00 fuck me

                        meteor hammer

                          i tested it to make sure

                          stoneform doesnt refresh attack charges since 7.00

                          however its still better to wait until they have max charges and attack because the charges are expended 1 by 1 and the other charges are used wihtout being expended as long as u have more than 1 (im explaining badly but for example the last charge in the stack is used 7 times if you have max charge = 24 x 7, 168 physical damage, wheras if you onlyhave 1 charge it is only used once)

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                            HE IS RIGHT ACTUALLY, NOW WE ALL LOOK STUPID. THERE IS LITERALLY NO POINT IN USING STONE FORM THEN BOYS. how fucking op is visage though? even with this change...

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                            meteor hammer

                              arin

                                yeah it wouldnt matter if charges were spent 1 by 1 but you're using 7, 6, 5.. for price of one if you wait for recharge

                                Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                  not attacking for 14 seconds will give max stacks, then in 3.2 seconds the bird will do 304 damage. during this 17.2 second period, a bird with no bonus would do 430 damage, so i dont think its worth it to make them wait.

                                  meteor hammer

                                    left birds autoattacked continuously. right birds waited to regain charge

                                    Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                      in higher levels though, damage increases to 528/752 while the base damage remains the same, so in higher levels it might be worth it to stack the damage charges.

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                                        yeah for level 2/3 it makes sense.

                                        arin

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                                          is it illegal, shitting on kids?

                                          meteor hammer

                                            tested again to make sure, had to hit with the enfeebled visage 3 times the donkey on the right so the damage wouldnt reset, made a total of 130 extra damage

                                            with lvl 2/3 yeah its better to wait to hit