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TripleSteal-

    HAHAHA whoever of u guys thought of this idea is disgusting

    me, government hooker

      dotabuff articles JHAHAHAH

      Chiwa
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        Stone Cold Steve Austin
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          I'm sO fUcKInG BaAd

            ? whats going on?

            Riguma Borusu

              those articles written by 3k dotabuff mods are worse than my shitposts and at least I am ironic at least half of the time

              those guys are serious

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              meteor hammer

                flaming dotabuff staff feelsbadman

                Sippy

                  If that's the direction they are going I'll be visiting dotabuff slightly less. Enjoy reading the blogs but Im way to casual a player to pay for them.

                  kL

                    Thats a really bad idea. I agree with Sippy

                    one syllable anglo-saxon

                      shitty idea but caring about it assumes u actually read dotabuff articles which is a big fucking ROFL in my book

                      Dog

                        I say someone with the plus subscription go copypaste that shit here on the forums

                        faw

                          what next? "disable ad block or u cant use dotabuff"? LuL

                          Johnny Rico
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                            faw
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                              Camcorder

                                Hi there,

                                Thanks for the feedback, we really appreciate hearing what you have to say about this. I'd like to clarify a few things:

                                - We are NOT making all blog posts Plus-only, or decreasing the volume of normal (free) content. This Plus post is IN ADDITION to our normal content schedule.
                                - We wanted to experiment with a different type of post that was more of a deep dive into a specific part of the meta. This type of content takes significantly more research and effort to produce, and involves more people.
                                - Related to that, unlike other sites, we pay all of our contributors for their content. This includes pulling in external experts like players, coaches, etc for these Plus posts, and costs more money.
                                - Like other things on Dotabuff, we thought it fair to offer a more comprehensive experience for those who are able and willing to contribute to helping keep the site going via Dotabuff Plus.

                                We're listening to all of your feedback, and we appreciate the support of Plus subscribers. I fully understand if you're disappointed, but we're trying something new, and hope that you enjoy the new form of content.

                                Thanks,

                                Jason

                                Stone Cold Steve Austin

                                  Yeah, we kinda got that, the problem is that no matter how you want to deal with this, making a post appear on the main page only to tell us "you have to get plus to read our blog posts" is gonna be a huge turn off for people. It really doesn't look pretty, or put dotabuff plus itself in a positive light.
                                  Just my 20 cents.

                                  arin

                                    those articles written by 3k dotabuff mods are worse than my shitposts and at least I am ironic at least half of the time

                                    faw

                                      maybe u should offer a free dotabuff plus trial with limited functions (i.e. no hero rankings) to get ppl to try ur product, check ur articles for quality etc?

                                      i mean why would i buy dotabuff plus to check ur articles, the chance the article(s) suck/are written by low mmr players/don't really suggest anything new to me is quite high

                                      1st class tourist

                                        Lmfao

                                        Canceling my sub for sure

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                                        Camcorder

                                          @lols - Good idea, we do plan on offering a free trial, and being able to preview Plus posts is all that much more of a reason for it

                                          @'` - Sorry to hear. Can you elaborate on what you don't like about this? Our goal was to provide a new kind of more in-depth content.

                                          We really do appreciate all of the feedback here, thanks everyone.

                                          meteor hammer

                                            i enjoyed it :v

                                            some of it was super obvious but i only watch pro games rarely so it was fun reading for sure

                                            it went in depth on one team's drafting "strategy", specifically what heroes they pick as core and support and how they synergize.

                                            it also highlighted one players strategy in the laning phase, and why it worked

                                            i wanted plus anyway for other reasons

                                            there wasnt any obvious wrong shit anyway, im sure they have knowledgeable human beings doing research and its not all "3k mods lul"

                                            inb4 dotabuff shill

                                            Camcorder

                                              @just desserts - Thanks for the feedback!

                                              Chiwa

                                                Why is my monkaS pic got deleted :thinking:

                                                Camcorder

                                                  @Confused - sorry about that. It didn't break any rules, but I wanted to give this thread the best possible chance of giving meaningful feedback, and thought a 100 ft pepe didn't help with that ;P

                                                  не говори по РУ

                                                    an enemy of memes is an enemy of mine

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                                                      I personally don't like that idea, I understand that this is probably a more researched article and probably won't affect the productivity of the normal posts, but it is simply feels unfair
                                                      I mean, it was established that dotabuff blog posts free articles to read, and does not have connections to the dotabuff plus paid membership services. And making that move, essentially limiting the (non subscribed) users access to the content, feels like some sort of "betrayal"
                                                      While I can still read normal articles, those ones are going to sit in the corner, essentially teasing me to subscribe. That feels abit out of place

                                                      I think that those articles should have a distinct section which won't interfere with the normal ones. I understand that it may decrease the advertisement of the articles, but I think that them being on the front page is really teasing, essentially spitting in my face "subscribe"

                                                      Maybe instead of cutting the post early, you can post to the non subscribed a TL DR version, which still convey the article's saying but without being as informative

                                                      Perception

                                                        @Camcorder

                                                        The post is fine, Dota players just complain alot because they aren't successful in real life and don't know what it takes to keep a business/website going.

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                                                          I have no doubt that this is a business and need to be profitable in order to exist
                                                          But I think that the profit should have minimum interfere with the user experience to make it the most appealing for the broad community, and I personally find that the limited article idea's execution feels really uncomfortable and makes the non subscribed user like he misses a lot, maybe even a bit of guilt for not paying

                                                          I personally don't like the execution, I am totally on board about the reason behind it

                                                          meteor hammer

                                                            Dota players just complain alot because they aren't successful in real life and don't know what it takes to keep a business/website going.

                                                            truth xd

                                                            1st class tourist

                                                              Im stopping the service because i havent played dota for the past 4 months and I am planning on not playing it anymore either

                                                              🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                DB+ is useless

                                                                i had it for a year, gives basically nothing

                                                                i think you need more interesting features with it.

                                                                the fact that it only shows what percentile, instead of what actual rank you are on a hero, when you're not in top 200 is a giant kick in the nuts.

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                                                                Dire Wolf

                                                                  dotabuff has been adding a lot more stats for free, you're getting more out of this site than you were a few years ago anyway. which they kind of had to since valve does the post game stuff now... but anyway, it's not like free users are losing anything.

                                                                  Shou

                                                                    its just sounds rlly dumb
                                                                    like to suggest that skim has the dota knowledge to make an in depth article is dumb
                                                                    and i know u said it was taken with suggestion of pros and such, but its not obvious at first glance
                                                                    just seems kinda stupid imo to put something in the main page then say "Jebaited u cant see this"

                                                                    BenaoLifedancer
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                                                                        Shou

                                                                          ^i fucking bet benao expected dotabuff to hire him instead

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                                                                          BenaoLifedancer

                                                                            nah

                                                                            but i will pay for dotabuff for another 6 months and destroy everything those so called experts claim. Got little time but since Im in lp now ill use that time on this.