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General Discussionogre magi best supp..?

ogre magi best supp..? in General Discussion
Kalim'dor

    i feel ogre is the best support.. needs zero farm.. very tanky at lane... share ur thoughts ppl...

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      Chiwa

        And does nothing mid to late game

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          And does nothing mid to late game
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          Kalim'dor

            @confused : 2 stuns... not bad in teamfights.....

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              pretty bad tbh imo but hes just not my style

              long cast time short range stun

              unreliable ultimate.

              he can win the early game as a solo support better than most others though, because of his tankiness.

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              chicken spook,,,,

                Too momentum dependent
                You either bloodlust 5 people and knock on their barracks at min 15 or be a walking drum

                Riguma Borusu

                  he has fallen out of favor because the green meta shithead heroes don't need an ogre

                  also lich might not cancel a TP or take a ton of harass but he wins every lane

                  dead

                    depends on game

                    Kalim'dor

                      ogre early game is too goood... and with a tiny or sven scales insanely into late... also stun is really usefull in teamfights... at my mmr i wud pick ogre over litch 95% games...

                      Riguma Borusu

                        that stun is the most useless thing in any teamfight

                        you need to die to use it unless you have extended range on it and even then it has a retarded long cast animation

                        chicken spook,,,,

                          Good lord why did I click on his profile

                          speegnacken e.V

                            bloodlust everyone get pipe blademail and just soak up damage

                            Shou

                              Bloodlust doesn't last long enough
                              Also his other skills r useless outside of the slow in lane

                              speegnacken e.V

                                ^just wrong

                                Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                  30 seconds is long enough. with level 2 multicast you can keep it up on 3 people. with level 3 its even easier. but yeah i look at ice armor and bloodlust and ice armor just seems better with more utility and more power early.

                                  Stentorian

                                    lich is better.

                                    #opinion

                                    Cheap Laugh Guy

                                      Tankiest support
                                      Like Night Stalker just run into people and punch em early game
                                      Really dumb and easy
                                      But then NS might be a better pick

                                      Any

                                        Ns cant play hard supp though while ogre can

                                        Story Time

                                          what about picking Ogre+Lich+Abba+Omni to buff the one and only mighty huskar while he is pushing the shit out of buildings

                                          Atha

                                            lich/ns with arcane is stupid, while ogre not, lich is defensive buff and no stun, Ns provides vision, slow, silences and no buff with limited mana early game and nearly unreliable unless night, and many more, item choices, it all depends.

                                            Riguma Borusu

                                              what about picking Ogre+Lich+Abba+Omni to buff the one and only mighty huskar while he is pushing the shit out of buildings

                                              hmm I have no idea how an all in strategy could fail

                                              Cashmere

                                                If your hero requires your cores to pick around your pick then it's probably a bad support pick tbh.

                                                Story Time

                                                  what about picking Ogre+Lich+Abba+Omni to buff the one and only mighty huskar while he is pushing the shit out of buildings
                                                  hmm I have no idea how an all in strategy could fail

                                                  The key strength is that everyone will have to stay together for this to work :D and if they jump supports first the ult of omni will give 5 sec for huskar to feed on enemies while lich ulty flying around :D damn i wanna try that

                                                  Riguma Borusu

                                                    strength

                                                    you mean weakness

                                                    i mean five manning early is okay if the enemy has no wave clear and all but it is a serious flaw if you don't rax them 15 minutes in

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                                                    Shou

                                                      u wud need dazzle or oracle for that strat to be remotely possible, even then, something as simple as global into blink call blademail dunk works to counter this
                                                      any sort of big teamfight disable counters this, cuz if everyone is stunned then no one can save huskar, and if huskar dies then u lose the fight

                                                      either way huskar works in many ways by being the front liner, attention attracter hero to take flak from the other carry
                                                      even if huskar dies he takes a lot to kill and he deals a lot in return, usually this is enough for ur team to clean the fight
                                                      if they cant burst huskar in the initiation he completely shits on people, but this doesnt require more than 1 other hero to help him aka dazz or oracle
                                                      its just stupid and pointless to devote 4 heroes when only 1 is needed, and to also take away another carry when huskar kinda needs someone else either better in the lategame than him or someone who can stay back and deal dmg while he is disabled.
                                                      people always tell me to bkb on huskar, and while its good, i dont always mind being disabled if i cant die and my team cleans em up
                                                      thing is in pubs they will often let me down, in which case i do need bkb
                                                      however imo in an ideal environment u wud never buy bkb on huskar unless its an hour+ games and u need to hit buildings

                                                      chicken spook,,,,

                                                        Lol on ideal scenarios BKB is never what you want to get no matter what hero

                                                        Shou

                                                          ^yes but huskar is a hero that benefits from attracting attention, wants slots for other things, and has a skill that mitigates magic dmg
                                                          its not like an ursa bkb who already has a kit with no need of big item supplements besides mobility (blink), and occasionally disable (basher/diffusal), and doesnt need any extra slots

                                                          huskar wants a lifesteal/satanic slot, an armor slot, a halberd slot, an armlet slot, and it leaves him with one other extra slot left, which he wants for either late bkb, the situational mkb, linkens against shit like duel, maybe pike
                                                          his one slot is even then taken up by other things

                                                          Riguma Borusu

                                                            huskar does not necessarily need an armor slot, armlet is pretty good and combined with halberd the enemy carry should not be doing much physical damage at all

                                                            also, I do not know why you have a dazzle omni or oracle on your team if physical damage can still kill you easily, weave is really good with huskar, omni has GA and oracle can keep you at 10% hp and hitting like a madman, just so you are at full hp after his ult ends

                                                            of course, when the game goes later you will want an AC, but it is not something you get that early, you get BKB before that in pretty much every game