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General DiscussionWhat's up with the radiant/dire win rate disparity?

What's up with the radiant/dire win rate disparity? in General Discussion
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    Why do most people have a higher win rate when playing on the radiant side rather than the dire's ? I have a 5% win rate advantage when playing on the radiant team .

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      cartel

        Radiant is good dire is evil

        sisyphus

          dire side all the way

          evy

            Dire had rosh advantage back in 6.88 and before and even then the winrate was still radiant sided

            Anomaluna
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              Blurrybob

                It's because everyone starts on radiant side when first playing dota so they feel more comfortable on that side

                [-LC-] MrSoda

                  Its probably the camera position.

                  U just see more as Radiant

                  Stentorian

                    i win 62% of my radiant games

                    and 47% of my dire games

                    ????????????????

                    Shou

                      For me the difference is 4% but still noticable

                      Ariaflutter.Ataraxia

                        looks like everyone is winning more on radiant than on dire.

                        Kotato

                          simple: most people are right handed! Radiant side favors right handed people. is anyone left handed here - who can confirm that they have no disparity between WR for radiant and dire?

                          Stentorian

                            All training and game-learning is done from radiant. Even bot games are played from Radiant. So in a way, Radiant is the "home team" for some players.

                            This translates into player behavior. When I play radiant, I'm more likely to try my best and pick my best heroes. When dire, I'm more likely to pick random shit and lose.

                            I actually looked at my ~500 games I realized I do pick my highest win rate heroes more when I'm on Radiant.

                            Stentorian

                              Also, do a google search on this. There are lots of posts about this dispersed throughout other forums as well (Reddit etc).

                              The theory is that the map is somewhat biased towards radiant (easier to pull/stack, gank, creep block, etc). But hard to imagine it explains such a significantly different win rate.

                              I think people are just more likely to tilt and throw when they're on a team that differs from what their brain perceives to be "home".

                              Dire Wolf

                                I do agree that people seem to pick like garbage on dire, way more awful jungle picks, terrible offlanes etc.

                                sisyphus

                                  @Kotato

                                  i am left handed and actually have a slightly higher dire winrate, maybe you're on to something

                                  Jacked

                                    Yes the radiant /dire split I suspect is similar to handedness. But I never considered that left handers would find dire easier. I can't see why that would make a difference. It just feels more natural moving toward the TOP right.

                                    kormoranas

                                      dire 49, radiant 53 :O

                                      thing is, i play jungle a lot or played before it was nerfed, bounty rune spawned closer for jungler in radiant. Other than that i see no difference

                                      Stone Cold Steve Austin

                                        54/48 for me, but I did play thousands of games as Sentinel (=Radiant) in Dota 1 days when I was active.

                                        Nile

                                          Pretty sure it's just the psychological effect of different colours.

                                          Hy~

                                            Dire bot if you choose to play for dire is bad, sometimes they stuck somewhere like beside secret shop so it's always annoying to play with dire side, so i have more experience with radiant side. But, since lately i have playing offlane, i got like 60% dire winrate and 40% radiant winrate, so everything about radiant advantage is mostly unjustified. Playing offlane as dire is easier for me.

                                            TNL.Jolly_Hotdog

                                              i have 99% winrate on both radiant and dire. Must be doing something right.

                                              Kotato

                                                @Kotato
                                                i am left handed and actually have a slightly higher dire winrate, maybe you're on to something

                                                cool! Now we just need some more observations and then the theory is confirmed :)

                                                Invidia

                                                  Radiant is full of trees. Dire is full of skeleton, basically hell

                                                  miekuah-P

                                                    Next update: camera becoming a fixed top down. Just like mobile legends

                                                    $0L0

                                                      I think I found a way to close the gap between the disparity. I've been messing with my settings and I moved my map to the right side bottom while on the dire side. I noticed I didn't misclisk as often on the map, causing my hero to move unexpectedly. Try it out and see what happens.

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                                                      Shou

                                                        Used to happen a lot when I meant to click away from dire ancient and towards radiant ancient, and instead hit the minimap and go in the opposite direction and die

                                                        Soggy Bottom Boy

                                                          I have:
                                                          47.66% dire
                                                          56.78% radiant on all time

                                                          41.43% dire
                                                          63.33% radiant in the last 6 month

                                                          BUT:

                                                          50.00% dire
                                                          53.85% radiant this moth (23 games)