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General DiscussionNeed advice from meepo players(abusers)

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    How play agianst Sven and Wyvern ?? How much games I gotta play that become to annihilate everything ? Is it worth it ?

    Ayaneru   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      If you see Sven or Wyvern, don't pick meepo unless youre Abed.

      G-zooz

        youll need eblade for sven and ww

        Autumnus

          You have teammates though

          Jacked

            Eblade

            🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

              eblade, lots of them

              alternatively you can also get hex or diffusal since they work really nice with maapo

              JackPot!

                while we're talking about Meepo, I'll go ahead and ask basic meepo questions. Why people get dragon lance? and why multiple eblade? do these items somehow effect the other meepos or what?

                🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                  meepo is a pure stat hero
                  lance basically doesn't give you just +12 to str and agi

                  but gives you 4x that, aka +48 to str and agi

                  because it gives it to all the meepo's

                  treads give +10 to selected atribute, so let's say agi

                  so +40 agi, and 2x dlance is +96 agi and str

                  eblade is +40 agi, so that gives you +160 agi total

                  and you can see now how much you snowball from these stat items.

                  now this isn't the only build, but it's the most efficient one at ripping players apart.

                  most players in high mmr go for treads>dlance(or 2)> blink> eblade/difusal

                  because they can fight with that blink, something that you won't do at low mmr because:

                  1. you aren't forced to take fights, as enemy doesn't bank on a won fight.
                  2. teammates no coordination.
                  3. farming multiple eblades will let you finish by 20 minutes because you'll have so many stats and levels that you'll be able to rip apart anyone and any tower

                  difusal is an alternative.

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                  🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                    actually, i almost forgot

                    there's a bug that gives the clones double the selected attribute from treads,

                    main meepo gets +10 agi, clones get +20

                    so thats actually +70 agi from treads

                    so that's 96 2x dlance, 320 2x eblade, 70 agi treads

                    totaling 486 agi

                    which is a lot of dps, how much exactly?

                    it'll rip trough literally any hero within 1-5 seconds.

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                    all role player

                      ^how to apply that bug ?

                      🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                        buy treads

                        doc joferlyn simp

                          MiND = BloWN

                          cartel

                            Lol

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                              486 agi which means meepo is a agi hero. So he got +486 dps?

                              TNL.Jolly_Hotdog

                                buy tango as first item

                                🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                  the formulas for DPS

                                  (100+IAS)*0.01/BAT = aps

                                  DPS= (avg dmg) * APS

                                  DPS- damage per second
                                  APS- attacks per second
                                  IAS- increased attack speed
                                  BAT- base attack time

                                  IAS= AGI + item attack speed increase

                                  avg dmg is the white + green damage. white damage is a random value within some range. so your dps is never a static value.

                                  since there's 4 meepos, their total average damage is the sum of their individual average damages.

                                  also note that meepo only shares stats to clones, aka it doesn't share +damage or +att speed from items.

                                  so if meepo was 1 hero with 486 attack damage and 486 attack speed(he isn't, but to make this simple so i can simplify it)

                                  he'd have

                                  (100+486)*0.01/1.7= 3.45 APS

                                  and he'd be doing 486 damage because 1 agility= 1 damage

                                  so his dps would be 486*3.45= 1676.7

                                  which would burst any hero, like i've said, within 1-5 seconds.

                                  ofc meepo does way more dps than this because of his passive, his base damage and his levels which give him stats.

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                                  doc joferlyn simp

                                    Calculate a six-slotted Arc's potential burst in 3 seconds, assuming enemy hero is alone and the items are from what you would get in a real game

                                    🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                      which items?

                                      you also have to consider that arc's flux lasts 6 seconds and spark wraith has an activation delay of 2 seconds.

                                      so it depends on which combo do you want me to use.

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                                      doc joferlyn simp

                                        Go for whatever combo you are doing in your Arc games. Situation is enemy is solo and you just have to dump everything you have on him, the most efficient way possible

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                                          @cuki
                                          Pretty sure arc lv 6 could 1 shot squishy mid hero like invoker or lina with 2q and 2e

                                          ywn

                                            diffu vs sven

                                            hex and eblade vs wyvern

                                            🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                              also, 1 agi is not 1 dps, it's waaay more

                                              considering that some imaginary hero does not have any base damage, the formula would be:

                                              Y= ((100+X)*0.01/1.7)*X

                                              where X is agility and Y is DPS.

                                              this caps at X=500 because of the max attack speed being 600.

                                              🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                since there's too many factors, which i don't feel like calculating, i just went ahead into demo mode:

                                                3k dps

                                                total of 9k damage in those 3 seconds.

                                                it'll definitely kill anything you try to kill.

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                                                  :thinking: pretty sure tb deals the most dps(right click) damage with minimum item

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                                                    Is getting pike good vs ww coz ww usually stays very far back

                                                    doc joferlyn simp

                                                      Unreal rofl