I meant a hero who can gank at levels 1-2 and flash farm by 20 min
Most pos3 heroes fall behind on creep score and rely on creating space for the team
Most would require level 2, like morphling. Even pudge really starts to become effective at 2, unless you're already good with approach points. But CK is pretty legit.
My suggestion, don't pick position 1 if you wanna roam. If you only know how to have good impact in the early game and then fall off and start dying because of over aggressiveness in the mid game, you're playing wrong. Picking a carry to start farming after the laning stage and stealing it from your safe lane will only hurt you. Start ganking with your offlane and supports with smokes.
watch zdonfrank riki.
u start roaming until 10+ minute and u buy midas to farm
CK works and has been picked as pos 4 (very rarely though) for quiet sometime
its just flat 3k normal MM but still (thats actually also pos 5 CK, so pos 4 with some farm would be even better)
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3314902103
naga also works, the root plus armour reduction is pretty good to gank, if your ally in the lane has some lock down as well
was actually a pos 5 game, but pos 4 should also work i guess
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3201845036
also roaming zeus, 2 of my games (both won)
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/382032027/matches?hero=zeus
Also i remember some pro team playing a roaming sven in a match, but i dont remember which team or wat lan it was
But why?
Cores usually are the weakest part of the team in the early stages, why would you use this kind of hero to apply pressure?
If you are way better than your bracket, maybe works in a few games, but most of the time you'll ruin your team by staying underfarm, underlvl and with no impact
No you are being a typical low skill player without the ability the think outside the box.
there are heros that usually are played as pos 1 that can be effective as pos 4.
It probably never ocurred to you but under the "guide section" you can select other guides and buy different items and lvl your skills in a different order!!!!111
you dont need to buy manta and heart on CK to be effective, you can also roam, max stun and rift first, buy solar crest drum rod of atos and use your ulti to push. and POOF! suddenly you have a legit pos 4 support, just by buying different items
@killstealreporter
ck has a rng disable, you can't engage early skirmishes trust only in it. That's why Mirana isn't a reliable roammer without another support with lockdown.
and before you say i can't think out of the box, look at my profile, you're right, i'm a low skill player but i allways try different heroes in different positions. That's why i'm saying that a pos 1 playing as roammer doesn't work. usually pos 4 heroes strugle to get xp, most of pos 1 heroes can't shine in this scenario
I used to play pos 4-5 alch a long time ago, maybe the nuke dmg talent might make him mildly viable again
Or not
let me tell you again. CK has been played as pos 4 for a long time.
im not the only one that did this
oh wow https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3159326435
this 4k player randomly decided to play CK roaming pos 4??? or maybe he got the idea to play this, because people have been playing it before
I've done roaming spec
Don't try unless u want ultra cancer
Roaming ck is legit tho
Roaming pa used to be legit when dagger had a rlly long range lvl 1.
I'd rather run clinx or huskar as a roamer than Spectre
Oov on ranged and provide the dmg in a gank rather than the disable.
Lina is the only one that's decent, she is very strong early levels, and she is able to flash farm which all heroes mentioned above lacks.
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3280181815
I babysitted my Luna for 10 min, and smoke ganked for sf once or twice. Then I afk jungles while my team farms lane and enemy jungle with full vision(wards I placed). Also I joined pretty much every big fights.
Alchemist. max stun and passive. ez ganks ez farm.
Max passive when you are roaming? No.
The proper build is max acid, next stun. The -armor from acid amplifies the damage from stun.
Also, no pu55i when charging stun. literally every alche player I meet is afraid of charging stun beyond .5 of a second.
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Does anyone have a replay for playing a usual pos1 carry as a roaming support?