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FHigh420HighE

    Now I just need to figure out how to get 750, 650 by just being more effecient but a full 100 requires better mana keep and shrine use

    And I am doing the 82 last hits without missing a creep in the arcade last hit challenge, but instead of just last hitting them I try to get all 82 last hits without actually looking at the screen after the creep hits 50% health I look away and last hit it.

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    Desolate

      why jerk ofcuki

      FHigh420HighE

        cause cookies is currently providing the best content out there, better than most coaching sessions. also alot of this is stuff I already knew to do but never was motivated to do, cookies has a way of motivating people to improve rather than being lazy

        dioxgamingpro

          his team said he should play with bots and saw this and said "no wonder he's so noob at dota he can't even win a bot match with no bots.".

          MADBUNNY
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            1striker(warming up)

              Now do it in a real game

              Lokieleven

                None of that carries into real games.
                Sure you'll get faming patters but not much else, could have gotten the same thing from spamming am.

                Shou

                  ^the thing is, when ur so mechanically refined u can devote more thinking time to game-by-game decision making.
                  when u can farm the map like this with ur brain shut off, u can do much much more with ur brain on.

                  FHigh420HighE

                    Daddy gets it.

                    Sia

                      rofl ppl not understanding the reason of the challenge

                      l e a r n s k i l l s 1 b y 1 a n d f a s t e r since u can load 4-5 10 min lobbies instead of 1 game that has 1 first 10 min

                      FHigh420HighE

                        @ sia I actually like ta better for the challenge than am, no need for battlefury and with practice you can find the angle for every camp where you can walk in and one shot the whole camp with psi blades.

                        The downside to ta is no manta, so getting 600 is easier and more reliable but manta farmers can do the 750 challenge alot easier.

                        FHigh420HighE

                          @voidhelm laning just comes down to mechanics, positioning, effective trading and undersranding trading, lane control. But you can win lane and lose game.

                          I am trying to learn better 1v9 not 1v1. I would like a 97% winrate vs 2k and 3k and thats what I am working towards.

                          Sia

                            playing ta tho is a practice itself so if u wanna get to higher number of cs get it with better farming heroes first then as a training for ta herself see how much u can get with ta

                            FHigh420HighE

                              @sia I got 600 as TA, i could have improved effeciency by about 15%

                              So I imagine I could get 700 with more effeciency but I think getting 750 would just require perfect stacking the camps im at at every odd minute to double 1 camp of cs.

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                              ywn

                                Cuuki-chan :3

                                Fyyq

                                  cokers

                                  Sand1

                                    All hail Cookie-sama

                                    Sia

                                      Y-God

                                      Lokieleven

                                        Okay take csgo for example.
                                        You can pratice in a lobby vs afk bots to get headshots, but the targets aren't moving/ shooting at you.
                                        Or you can go into a headshot only server with real players.
                                        You can shoot around at a basketball court by yourself, or you can play against other players.
                                        It will give you farming patterns and nothing more.
                                        The only thing this "challenge" produces is afk farmers worried about their gpm in ranked

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                                        evy

                                          It's only good if you have no idea about efficiency a.k.a super new to the core role

                                          fx

                                            Try getting a 10min 100 cs or 100cs 12min(this includes triple ancient stack you made yourself)

                                            Giff me Wingman

                                              sorry but this practice is pointless.

                                              Jacked

                                                i wouldn;'t say it is completely pointless. it is useful for new players. because while it is obvious how you should farm the map to you, it may not be to 1-2ks. and they are horrible at being efficient at clearing waves + Camps.

                                                more useful is the empty last hitting first 10 minutes though. i wouldnt say it is completely useless. most normal skills simply cant last hit even in an empty lobby.

                                                Giff me Wingman

                                                  Ok, I'll give u the "for new players".But anything beyond 2k idk.

                                                  Jacked

                                                    have u seen 3ks blunt. they cant last hit either. i would recommend 3ks to practice at least before they go into a real game for warmup.

                                                    FHigh420HighE

                                                      Yeah I got it in 2 tries. Doing it basically just made me use butterfly active and I started to remembering what time creep waves spawn so I kept going up and meeting waves based on spawn time.

                                                      FHigh420HighE

                                                        But doing it with ta most definitely is good cause you start finding 1 shot angles for every camp.

                                                        Desolate

                                                          3k carrys are so retarded
                                                          they never tryhard lasthting range creep nor care about a creep if they have gold for boots they go shop and miss 1-2 cs plus mis cs in lane cause they bad ....

                                                          and im stil losijg to 3ks omg

                                                          Jacked

                                                            ^ u are losing to all the failed over calibrated smurfs

                                                            Cookie

                                                              idk what shit are you smoking, check any mid 3ks average games

                                                              in those games carry on average has 40-50 lasthits at 10 minutes, now check an average 6k match where teh carries will have 65-80 at 10 minutes.

                                                              and you think it's easier to lasthit in a lane against a 6k offlaner than against some dogshit 3k dual lane who can't even press buttons?

                                                              get real, these have proven results and i've explained why they work, i don't care if you don't want to do any of them

                                                              your mmr is up to you, my methods work for me and my students. they've proven themselves countless times, i have no idea why people keep making excuses not to even try.

                                                              obviously a 5-6k player won't need to do them as he already has these. but some 0-4k scrub who misses every lasthit in a freefarm lane does.

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                                                                Jacked

                                                                  It's true. I'm constantly
                                                                  Highest last hits at 10 mins in my free farm lane but I never hit 60 xd

                                                                  Sia

                                                                    the class will be canceled tomorrow due to prof. cookie's awful car accident. for more info check his feed.

                                                                    FHigh420HighE
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                                                                      Coroner

                                                                        Or simply play more so you can actually progress without wasting time on this shitty lobby challenges? dota is not some fucking sport that requires practice so you can be better. You progress more as you play more games, end of the fucking story.

                                                                        If you have absolutely 0 clue how to last hit, like overall total complete shit in hitting creeps when they get low (which is essentially basic of the game) you can do it, whatever.

                                                                        Anythign beyond that is just waste of the time without accomplishing shit.

                                                                        ywn

                                                                          dota is not some fucking sport that requires practice so you can be better.

                                                                          l m a o

                                                                          faw

                                                                            xD

                                                                            faw

                                                                              xD

                                                                              Coroner

                                                                                Mind argumenting your quote of my post and "l m a o" at it?

                                                                                Actually I doubt I will get any reasonable argumentation now when I look at your profile filled with gay cartoons and cringy quotes

                                                                                ywn

                                                                                  U R U S A I B A K A

                                                                                  Coroner

                                                                                    "Fight! If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you don't fight, you can't win!" pure wisdom

                                                                                    faw

                                                                                      xD

                                                                                      faw

                                                                                        yet hes like double ur mmr, does that mean you are double as retarded as him? :thinking:

                                                                                        ywn

                                                                                          I guess i should put this quote on my profile instead:

                                                                                          dota is not some fucking sport that requires practice so you can be better.
                                                                                          - 3k player

                                                                                          Coroner

                                                                                            Well if you quote me about something, least I expect is argument of why you quote me. If not, I dont see point in spaming the thread. Either ignore my comment if you consider it stupid or write something properly so I can realize that maybe I am wrong.

                                                                                            one syllable anglo-saxon

                                                                                              You progress more as you play more games, end of the fucking story.

                                                                                              but u didnt progress after 4 thousand games :thinking:

                                                                                              ywn

                                                                                                sometimes a person says something so stupid, that you lose all faith in that persons intelligence.

                                                                                                this was more of a "public shaming" kind of thing

                                                                                                me, government hooker

                                                                                                  you cant even get good at sports by just practicing lol, you have to be natively talented at it, sure practice is key but if u take messi when he was 5 yrs old or w/e and some other random kid and apply the same training methods to them the results will not be the same

                                                                                                  same with dota u need to practice but also need to be somewhat oriented towards competitive 'gaming' in general, reason why females were never a thing in esports and also reason why multiple pro players in different games managed to go pro in other games (completely different genre) starting from scratch

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                                                                                                  Coroner

                                                                                                    @през горите през полята
                                                                                                    Who says I didnt? Check my first games what I was doing and then check what I did later after couple of hundred games. Is it pathetic and laughable progress? yes? but is it a progress? yes it is.

                                                                                                    I am sure if I trough years I played more often and consistent, had normal and serious approach in every game with will to win every game and pick whatever the team needs with mentallity of not giving up, I am sure I would be higher then I am. But not everyone has same priority when you play this game and what do they want with their time.

                                                                                                    Coroner

                                                                                                      @Y yep, Keep quoting part of the sentences, putting them out of context and then claiming something is public shaming without even trying to argumenting. Good stuff.