easier to set lane equilibrium, like if 2 enemy ranged creeps are pushing u can kill one with 3 hits and u wont need to lasthit under tower. also if ur base damage is poop
i buy quelling blade all the time in my carries <3 for even more effectiveness, i upgrade it to talon for ez jungle
All the time on melee, dunno if it's good on ranged. I mean why not? It's so cheap, tangoes, stout, qb is one of the best starts, why do you need stats on a melee hero to start if you have 24 dmg for cs and stout shield to protect your hp?
On ranged heroes I usually just get a wraith band to build into aquila.
masterrrr, i would like some advice after lycan has threads,necro,ac,deso,bkb, what to item next? any suggestions masterrr?
I buy it on pretty much every single melee carry, after selling it only costs you 200 gold and it helps you lane a lot not to mention the increase to jungle speed.
I have absolutely no idea why you wouldn't buy it every time you are melee farmer. a couple of extra last hits and its paid for. similarly the additional speed of farming the jungle is op.
if you don't think so, set up a lobby and see what your 5min farm is jungling with and without.
@Zer0
Try not get deso.
Almost must : Thread,BKB (try to delay it or don't make it if possible)
Push : Necro,AC,travel
Fight : SC,Armlet,Basher into Abyssal
Extra note : ButtFly as it can help you to enjoy your flying butt gain alot of survivability against physical dmg from enemies
Sometime Heart is ok also as it provides tankness and dmg,if you can survive a gank you might just tp to another lane to push with full hp
@dire wold
I don't think there is a single carry who wants to start with 1 set of regen and stout and qb. its better to buy 2 sets of regen, stout, and maybe a mango or branches or some shit. on am I start 2 slippers, 2 sets of regen and make pms in the side shop with the bounty rune, then buy qb.
Always buy it on melee carries.
In a contested lane it helps you CS.
If you were going to miss a CS it will help, especially under tower, and pay itself off quickly.
Once you leave lane phase it greatly increased your farming speed.
Oh and cutting trees helps a lot for small efficiencies as well as juking.
@ 1-IceTea
why not deso?
okay lol thanks for the advice master. i dont like fighting lycan, i like the pushing one better since it can secure a mmr hahaha
^Guess you can do it if you want but from what I think is Lycan already got enought dmg,Necro/AC already secured your pushing speed,wdeso taking the slot with no significant increase on anything.
I buy it all the time, it cost 200, and sells for 100, you basically get your money back when you need to sell it!
It is really good item, worth money on safe lane carry, irreplaceable in jungle, and if you like free stunning monkeys, which is really cool, you need to have it.
if i buy stout then no quelling blade i just pick one of them and iron branches etc imo its not good buying them together at the beginning of the game
I used to get it on nearly every single melee core back before it became set dmg.
Now I opt for a stout, 2 regen and somethin else unless the lane is complete hell in which case I just go for it to help lh.
Though it is still a nice item to have.
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Kappa
I really don't know why they changed it from being a percentage to being a flat 24. As soon as you have less than 60 base damage it does less. Terrible change for no purpose. I mean can anyone explain a purpose for it? It wasn't even as though 40% increased damage against creeps was OP or anything. It just made farming faster and less of a chore. Used to be that you would hold onto a quelling blade as long as you could. Now you dump it the first chance you get. Worst change in Dota history imo. And so pointless too.
^people were starting to realize drow and morph (meta and goto carries that meta) would be able to justify qb bcs of their insane base damage from their agility. osfrog deemed it gamebreaking and decided to nerf it, for good reason
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I don't buy quelling blade too often(unless jungling) do u buy this item in lane because u have to cs under tower? When to buy it in lane?