General Discussionhow do i learn to outlasthit players higher damage than me

i was going to ask u this

wat were you gonna ask me this for

you're playing a melee hero, just get quelling blade/talon you can't miss any lasthits ._.

a guy kept using spark wraith to guarantee ranged creep last hits or even melee creep when kept being denied by an invoker, same as you. and then with a sentry in lane once he hit 7 he just killed the enemy invoker over and over again until he won the game by pushing and not letting the enemy jugg, who built a bfury, farm

this was a few patches ago i think its still the same

no, i was playing sf 1v1 mirrors the other day and i missed the first few last hits cuz my enemy denied them, he suddenly has more dmg than me and i got so tilted, didnt get a cs for 3 mins even with razes

anyone wanna go practice lasthitting 1v1 against me?

eu only

I think most effective is getting your creeps same
Hp as his so he has to go
For his own

Although in practice that's really hard to do

maybe Ring of Aqualia?

money is required for ring of aquila

ya think those grow on trees?

Is it possible to cast Iron Talon when in the middle of attacking animation?

-hitting my own creeps to have them same hp as enemy creeps
that shit works when i play arc, just dropping your creep to low hp forcing enemy to lasthit him instead of deny

Is it strange to start out with QB, 2 FF, Circlet, Salve, and a shared tango on him?

^^^ did u take ur rpfolie pic from evolving brain memes?

on topic cuki just w8 till ur+30 dmg talent and then ez lasthits and denies!

go play the last hit challege in arcade till your 80-40 score, my invoker score was 78-45, i missed 2. also you need to move closer to last hit with better projectile speed and less travel distance, im pretty sure if you practice with the last hit challenge in arcade till your getting 80-40 you will be fine after that

also you need to do what i started doing lately with high range, everytime his last hit comes up agro and attack him, forcing to him to take the trade or the last hit, keep doing it you'll force him to quas and then you can cs better, which means you want to force his creeps to die about 1 second early so you can force the trade then hit yours, thats the best i can come up with

i can lasthit without anyone being there, that's not an issue.

issue is when someone picks some super high damage hero like quelling magnus + empower

or invoker alacrity/forge

sync your creep's health with his and focus on denies. queling damage doesnt affect denies btw

it's pretty much impossible to deny more than 40 cs, without missing alot of your own cs, and then if your doing that you cannot trade, in other words, if he is gonna end up 80cs-40denies, then you can basically get 40cs and free hit him all 10 minutes,

he literally does not have enough attack animation time to get perfect cs, deny you more then 2 in a wave, and trade with you.

so in this situation you should be getting 2 cs per wave atleast then trading the shit out of him and probably 1 deny. if you trade him and he is denying you instead of trading back, he will have to switch to quas giving you the even ground.

like I said, go practice the last hit challenge until your 80-40 easily, then you will be able to go 40-20 vs invoker with superior trading over him forcing him to go quas, or die 2 times, allowing you to end up actually going 60-30 vs 40-20 invoker.

if he is denying you a ton, your failing to capitalize on every attack animation, every time that little ball flies from his hand to hit something, you should have one hitting him, then just hit creeps that when his last hit is up, yours isn't and you hit him forcing him to take trade,

in reality he cannot last hit more than 10 times before he is out lane or has to switch to quas if you do this right.

creep aggro cooldown is actually 2 seconds, so can actually freely trade with him without aggroing the wave.

^2,5 seconds since 6.87

^^ i am finally realize he is Prince of Saiyan 1k gpm TA god wtf. that's why he is so smart

get quelling blade, fairy fly, wraith band/null talisman/bracer and ring of aquila/blight stone/orb of venom

^lol.

Harass them out of lane. Just dont give 2 fucks about lh and get him out. Then lh all you want

how are u not getting bored of playing 1 hero for 100 games

ofc buy some agility core item for early

or u could just simply kill invoker if u are really mad about him taking ur cs hahahahaahhahaha

that's why i only spam my favorite heroes, cus i like playing them

Yes I am the 1k gpm TA god, this is my battlepass farming acc. I got like 20 sets this battlepass so far on this low mmr acc. so much easier to get quests and win battlecups when you have a 2k acc during pass seasons.

@cookies, I get bored playing the same hero 2 times in a row, i get bored trying hard 2 games in a row, this game just isn't that fun, in reality there is nothing fun about dota 2 outside of beating other people or winning, or learning/testing all the heros i dont play or getting sets and battlepass farming. In reality my hero pool is stupidly small, I only play like 15% of the heros at high skill level. man it takes forever to develop each hero to your peak skill level.

u don't to have outplay your enemy with last hit, you have to destroy the enemy ancients you know..hahaha

fake last hit. hit the creeps beside the target to bait him.

play a bot game agaisnt viper mid, you will learn to last hit.

-pulling aggro back while creep is dropping
-pulling aggro back for safer lasthits

mainly this one, so u have to trade lasthits(or denies if hes a retard)
-hitting my own creeps to have them same hp as enemy creeps

and i would buy aquila fast and then phase boots which helps, but i dunno what ur build is

I go for a kill if i can't last hit does that help?

Just ask your teammate help or dont show up on the lane because you probably getting ganked either

We could practice me invo u arc if u want i miss cs with invo first couple of minutes too

I would buy wraith band into gloves of haste because arc's attack speed is actually the most cancerous thing ever

viper bot mid is actually so cancerous

I restart rofl

ok we'll play tomorrow sia then.

Ok man just about the timing im availabe from around 2 hours from now everyday

i'm sligtly super triggered, i got matched with the same moron disruptor who lost me 3 games now

and a pudge who literally just admitted, ''this is my first game in 2 years'' and proceeded to do nothing for the whole game

Probably should stop playing while u get a retarded m8 in high 5k the probablity of getting matched with thd same guy is high. Just chill after each match take a sec to remove all the info frpm last match which is useless and just takes place in ur head

2 matches yesterday, 1 match today

the guy has 260 gpm, i have no idea how you can only have 260 gpm avg in a 5k match

pudge literally pulled and ruined my lane for 5 creepwaves.

this game, i sware i need an answer.

Rofl ok that's poor luck

Dont play next i suggest xD

he has 260 gpm on his profile, not just this game, that's what's concerning to me.

like holy shit did i get triggered again, magnus forces me into invoker meatball combo in a fight we should've wiped the enemy and actually gained some map advantage

Xddd 200 gpm? Account buyer obviously xD