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General DiscussionNew meta is picking 4/5 carries?

New meta is picking 4/5 carries? in General Discussion
Saint the Pepega King

    So Ive noticed a trend in unranked recently is that the team with more carries wins, and that most teams who have 4 carries or even a full house of carries with no supports, tend to dominate the lanes and end much earlier than a normal game. I know this patch is all about 5 manning and taking towers, but seriously its starting to frustrate me when we pick a balanced team and they just decide fuck it Im gonna play mag, terror, jug, weaver and wk and then they all buy deso, push towers and end in 25 minutes or less. Surely there must be some kind of punishment for 5 manning from 6 minutes permanently. Levels and gold just seem to rack up though even though they are all splitting the farm 5 ways. Compared to say myself playing a void in a solo lane not missing a last hit, falling behind all 5 in terms of levels and gold. I think a new patch is in order if I do say so myself.

    dead

      keep the pressure up but dont overextend, starve them from gold(ward their jungle and keep map control),
      punish enemies going solo or being greedy

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      casual gamer

        theres not enough farm on the map to support it outside of the mariana trench

        evy

          unranked

          Or you can be the guy who pick support and deathball your team with properdraft and win before min 20, or starve the shit out of them by eating both jungle with vision and map control advantage while the enemy team flames each other in their fountain for picking core
          It's about punishing stupidities

          evy

            I play unranked for memes with first picking AM and get away unpunished
            That should tell you something

            Rufus Hitler

              3k unranked games... facepalm

              Bungmangler

                5 cores= auto win in any mmr below 4k ??

                or is it 5K?

                Forseti

                  Oh yea the glorious 5 carry strategy. Dont know my mmr yet, but according to dotabuff and opendota my unranked games are in the 3k region.

                  In my experience the biggest problem if you play against 4-5 carries is that people dont know how to use the advantage and when to push. Had lots of decent line up vs. carry only games, dominated the early and mid game but instead of pushing to end the game the 2-3 carries in my team decide to farm a bit more. And if you tell them whats going on you get sth like "yeayea just five more minutes to get my next item...". Meanwhile the enemies farm with five carries and get out of control. Sure you always can gank and kill one or two, but two supports alone cant keep a whole team from farming.

                  Shou

                    5 carries shud get shit on but in low mmr no one punishes and no one pushes together, they just randomly end up somewhere on the map together

                    Impulsive 3k addict.

                      Only in 3.5k and below it works. Don't bother picking cores to outfarm them or trying a push strat with retards.

                      My personal counter to 4-5core is picking something like offlane skywrath/necro and rushing eblade, shadowblade, scythe, linkens et cetera and just one shotting them.

                      It honestly may work more in 3k than in 2k because 3k has so many kids that just calibrated into ranked.

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                      Negative Mental Attitude

                        4-5 carries = run down mid gg
                        2-3 carries = good stuff
                        1 carry = run down mid gg

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                        kormoranas

                          when i raid that all team buys desolators i instantly understood 1-2k mmr problems :D
                          supports are a must, and being support doesnt mean you will feed, there are many supports that can dominate at least early game.
                          Oracle, Skywrath, Pudge and if they lose lane.... well you must be fuckin nob.

                          Beks

                            sorrry but that happens only in nrnal skil and High akill xD