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Emon

    after phase armlet what items are good? what I mean is that I see builds vary from echo/deso, Echo/basher, Echo/SnY.
    My 2nd question is when to build rush SNY? In what situation do i get the most utility out of that shit? Thanks

    3rd q is when to buy midas? after phase? before phase? after armlet?

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    Arturo b

      people build SNY on lifestealer?

      BenaoLifedancer

        I don't usually play Naix and I dislike armlet. I'd go for treads or phase with blight stone after boots then echo saber deso/dagger dagger/deso basher bkb, upgr basher, upgr attack speed, upgr boots. But that's just general. You might want to go for sny phase build certain games or crits in others. Even a random bf could work out in certain games or a more actual maelstrom build. But it all depends on your teammates picks, what you want to kill and proficiency of the players

        Raining in Manila

          i personally like to go for deso after phase armlet , echo kinda feel trash after only armlet , and a faster deso is always good

          Beks

            armlet is corest item of all corest things in the world on ls
            its like skipping blink on es

            Arturo b

              phase>armlet>echo>blink>deso>ac/abyssal

              Emon

                ^lol I said in my question "items after armlet"

                Arturo b

                  yes echo blink, if u want to build midas do it before phase

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                  tb~

                    i heard theres some 5.5k dude who never get armlet on LS and never got flamed for it

                    Emon

                      @fear thanks for the tip sir

                      Emon

                        ^upp please

                        Snu

                          Its usually items like this:
                          Phase
                          Armlet
                          Echo Sabre
                          Desolator
                          AC
                          whatever else.

                          Against super high Armor units (Treant + DK + Sven) I built:
                          Phase
                          Armlet
                          Mjonril
                          Silver Edge
                          Bloodthorne.

                          So basically, so long as you are dishing out the damage you need to (and know how to play) you can really build whatever. I feel as though S/Y is fine, so long as you have a good early timing on it. Sange been buffed too much I hear.

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                          JesusHadAegis

                            I'll go echo, deso, sb then ab and ac

                            Dire Wolf

                              There aren't a lot of bad items on lifestealer so the build is flexible. I would say armlet and echo are always core. Other stuff depends on matchup. Cookie cutter is phase, armlet, echo, deso, basher/abyssal/ac in some order, but s&y is fine if you are going to get kited a lot. Maim proc is very helpful is chasing people down as is the speed cus rage has a cooldown. But s&y shouldn't be core, more like if you're facing fast/kiting heroes who won't man fight like idk drow or sniper.

                              AC and deso will make you a tower crusher and very good vs other carries, especially strength ones. All that hp won't matter when they have low armor.

                              Basher can be very crucial too, either vs other man fight carries or for locking down fleeing targets.

                              Mjollnir is good if you know it's going to be a long game in which you need to farm cus lifestealer doesn't farm as fast as other carries. If you're vs like a split pushing AM who's going to drag the game late, you can wave clear the shit he pushes in quickly and keep up in farm with mjollnir. I would get it right after armlet and echo.

                              Don't neglect bkb. Which not always required, some games it is. Supports with force staffs, ghost scepters and disables can wait out rage and then lock you down.

                              Here's a game I got s&y cus we were up early and I wanted to counter warcry.
                              https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2819059402

                              CUTNPASTE

                                I'd flame anyone who doesn't go for armlet on naix. Usually I go deso->sabre but there are plenty of items that can work.

                                Shou

                                  Sny is outclassed by echosabre before echo was an item naix did go for it. Now the build is basically what cutnpaste said, phase blight armlet then deso/echo in whatever order and stuff like ac and abyssal. Mjollnir against illusions and timbersaw. Linkens is also situational late game.
                                  Dont listen to benao btw