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General Discussionjust my 2cents on slark

just my 2cents on slark in General Discussion
consistency

    why do people pick the +25 atk speed @ lvl 20 , i'll take +250 health anyday of the week really , slark is the type of carry that build quite tanky , also people need to buy more aghanims on him honestly , it makes you able to fight more often especially late game.

    Jacked

      my opinion is that attackspeed is really impt for slark, esp before he gets stacks of agility. he needs a starter motor to get his engine started. hence u go attackspeed

      Cheap Laugh Guy

        They wanna finish things off quick instead of linger

        oof

          slark doesnt rly have any actual direct damage passive that other hard carries do, i dont think he can really afford not to go for max damage in talents (with the exception of lifesteal) to really be impactful...

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          Pl4cid

            Depends

            ImagineDodong

              Ideally Slark shoud finish of targets like really fast and not to stay fights for too long hence the attack speed talent.

              attackspeed is really impt for slark, esp before he gets stacks of agility. he needs a starter motor to get his engine started

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              Giff me Wingman

                Oh yeah its not like essence shift gives you DAMAGE, ARMOR and ATTACKSPEED. I'd go for 250health every time Kappa

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                zDonFrank

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                  Beks

                    atack speed fast farm> fast skadi > fast health boost

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                      Xignum

                        Dont forget that you can kill and push faster

                        casual gamer

                          the faster you get passive stacks, the faster you can expolode their anceint : )

                          consistency

                            ye i get it if the talent was like +50 atk speed or smth, but +25 rlly? that's not even the amount a midas give , +250 health is as much as a vanguard give

                            also what about aghanim? i feel like slark always had a free slot that he could play with & now aghanim rlly fit that slot well , especially you only rlly need it late game when you have to use your ultimate alot to fight , maybe a full slotted slark will look smth like this :

                            treads - silver edge - skadi - abyssal - butterfly - aghanim

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                            casual gamer

                              aghs shit

                              Cheap Laugh Guy

                                ^^You're a slark dude, you have essence shift, you get more than what you imagine
                                You wanna hit hard with Shadow Dance on

                                aghs haha highly situational
                                get a shard, manta or heart

                                consistency

                                  heart for slark rlly dude

                                  consistency

                                    aghs is shit how? can someone explain why everyone fantasm about aghs on ursa but on slark its called "shit" when it pretty much has the same purpose except for ursa you can ult when stunned , not to mention ursa ulti has already a retarded low cd , but for slark to go from 60 sec cd all the way to 30 sec is kinda huge imho

                                    not arin

                                      i suppose that by lvl 20 slark is already expected to have items like echo and skadi so the hp increase doesnt seem that much prefered even though it seems better when i look at the items that do the same (comparing talents to gold cost)
                                      and then there's essence shift

                                      casual gamer

                                        30 seconds = 18 seconds roger

                                        consistency

                                          18 sec from 30 sec vs 30 sec from 60 sec

                                          slark can only fight when hes ult is avaible especially late game, so how does being able to ult twice as often is a bad idea?

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                                          casual gamer

                                            XD

                                            consistency

                                              there is no need for flame or sarcasm ,im only asking. if u can't prove your point to me as a blue star player it means im probably right

                                              also aghs give like
                                              +10 Strength
                                              +10 Agility
                                              +10 Intelligence
                                              +175 Health
                                              +175 Mana

                                              which is not bad for a hero that buy mostly stat items isn't it?

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                                              faw

                                                +hp is unnecessary on a hero like slark, whereas u can take a free hyperstone

                                                faw

                                                  it would probably good as an alternative lvl 10/15 talent

                                                  casual gamer

                                                    ok dude heres my serious answer to you

                                                    slark is a hero that is extremely dependant on snowballing, he has several serious weaknesses (slow, low hp, low armor, low tower damage, single target, vulnerable laning, cannot clear ancients)

                                                    as a result, his item build post-shadow blade consists of highly efficient stat items, silver edge echo sabre and basher all fulfill the niche of granting slark increased hp while also amplifying your burst damage so you can quickly pick heroes out of position

                                                    typically after basher, slark needs abyssal or BKB to ensure that he can guarantee he stays on top of his target, as gaining agi stacks is absolutely crucial to success as slark

                                                    while the aghs has significant teamfight impact, slark is typically played as a position 1 carry and thus will have difficulty standing against carries like luna and lycan after investing 4200 gold in 375 hp, 10 damage and 10 IAS

                                                    In addition, by building aghs instead of echo / SE / basher you reduce your ability to pick people off, significantly reducing your game impact

                                                    casual gamer

                                                      heres a comparison to

                                                      silver edge upgrade: 2400 gold

                                                      +15 all stats, break, 8 damage, active reduced cd

                                                      aghs: 4200

                                                      +10 all stats, 175 hp/mana, ultimate upgrade

                                                      the realm's delight

                                                        xD

                                                        casual gamer

                                                          Cheap Laugh Guy

                                                            Get rekt son

                                                            consistency

                                                              wow why ppl feel the need to twist people's words , i never said u dont buy basher or echo sabre to buy aghanims XD i clearly said you buy aghanim for 6 slot slark in late game since there is no other items after u have treads - silver - abyssal - skadi - butterfly holy shit

                                                              casual gamer

                                                                its the same thing sir. at some point you are choosing aghs over bfly/bash/skadi/bkb which willcripple your effectiveness as a carry

                                                                arin

                                                                  wow why ppl feel the need to twist people's words , i never said u dont buy basher or echo sabre to buy aghanims XD i clearly said you buy aghanim for 6 slot slark in late game since there is no other items after u have treads - silver - abyssal - skadi - butterfly holy shit

                                                                  mkb? bkb? refresher? linken? manta? hex? bloodthorn?

                                                                  hello

                                                                  Mekarazium
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                                                                    arin

                                                                      how do you gain hp by stealing agi

                                                                      TripleSteal-

                                                                        well, u have (maybe) 10% lifesteal

                                                                        arin

                                                                          oh i forgot about the existance of the talent