what is your current CPU, and ps you shoudl have bougha GTX 1050 TI, better performance tha the 960, and in some places a lower price.
Current CPU is AMD Phenom II X4 945. Back when i got it it was a decent CPU since you can O/C it like crazy base it 3.0, ive been running it at 3.7 for all these years.
And yes i know the 1050Ti and RX470/480 are all better for $150-200 but i got the 960 on black friday for $99 after a $50 rebate so i couldn't resist.
Mobo is old AM3 socket so thats going to have to be replaced, same with ram its DDR2 lul. Just wondering if theres an i5 i can either buy new, or something i can get off ebay/craigslist used from a 2-3 y/o comp.
any i5. I have a super old i5-760 and it does fine. An i3 can probably do it but they're dual core.
^He would have to replace his Mobo if he wanted any intel processor at this point.
@OP, you screwed up when you went with AMD. I can't (with good conscience) suggest any good AMD processor. Though, a friend of mine has a 6 Core, AMD Black edition - 3.5 GHz, 4.1 turbo. Not too shabby despite being AMD.
You will have do the research to see if it is compatible though:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286
he just said above he's willing to do that... and asked for an i5 suggestion...
The problem with a used i5 is going to be intel changes their sockets all the time, almost every iteration, so you'll need a compatible used mobo and you won't be able to upgrade.
if he wants an i5 suggestion, get the Haswell. on Newegg its $199 - and the Haswell is pretty good, best bang for your buck as far as i5's go, imo
Any newer i5 would do amazing job at dota, you can go for an used Haswell i5 44XX, H81 motherboard and a 8GB sticks of DDR3 1600 RAM for a cheapest deal. This is in no way (low end setup), considering that I use dual core G3258 (which costs around 50$ used) clocked to 4500mhz which is a lot worse that an i5 and it still do wonders for me. You can get all that for about 200$ on ebay. I checked the prices for you.
Its about this: CPU 150$, MBO 30$ and RAM 20$.
If you want new, I would go for Intel Skylake or if you can wait for AMDs new Ryzen platform later this year..
^Thank you drift ill check it out on ebay then, discounting the parts ill have to get rid of, the entire rig will cost about $400 haha.
Ryzen is like i7 competitor, theres no way its going to be <$300 i think, i also think im going to stay away from AMD CPUs for a while.
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/teams/19410-midas-club-elite
my boys from brazil, upcoming TI7 winners.
That Phenom will have drops down to 45-50 in a teamfights, even at 3.7.
However, only under 5v5 chaotic and big teamfights, and it will differ on enemy lineup.
During laning phase you'll probably have 80-100 fps with 3.7ghz
If you dont want to change the Motherboard, there are some FX processors that wont bottleneck your gpu, like the FX 6300 and the 8300
(ps if you are from brasil : i am getting the fx8300 on kabum for 400 reais)
But if change your motherboard you can get a i5 6600K, pretty good performance, or the old i5 4690k/ i5 4460 thet are still used a lot on intel builds.
you can buy used, used you find those chips pretty cheap.
snu wtf man? what the fuck would you pay retail for a 3 year old haswell when a brand new kably lake one same price?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116991
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117563
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117731
maybe you meant buy used?
We don't know if his motherboard supports FX CPU's. They are AM3+ and for all we know he could be having an am3 motherboard, which is most likely the case.
He meant buy used..
I don't think I would even go used, you don't save that much money. A used i5-4670 on ebay is around $150. A brand new skylake or kaby lake can be had for 50 more, see my links.
Old tech - buy used. New tech, I'd like to see Skylake / Canyon / Kaby / Haswell preform side to side - but for now, I am still biased towards the (new) Haswell because of the cache.
FYI, Been out of the hardware loop for a while now - due to working primarily on Software these days. I've also been spoiled by my laptop (not having to worry about upgrading my tower - not even touched it in almost a year).
I still don't understand what snu is saying. what new haswell the 4790? There are side by sides out now btw. Skylake and kaby lake are about the same but both better than then other stuff.
Really they're all so fast it doesn't matter, every game will be gpu bound.
Snu is saying that he likes the 15mb of cache (L3) on the Haswell as compared to the 6-8 on the other new Intel processors. But then again, I have no idea what is better for gaming, 2 more cores, or 7-9mb more cache.
^ Skylake/Kabylake i5/i7s have the same amount of cache like their Haswell counterparts, get your info straight before posting..
Plus they are more power efficient and they have much higher clock speeds. Its no brainer what to choose given that you have money ofc.
i've got the amd fx 8350 and it works perfectly. Very cheap cpu for it's perfomance, but i'd recommend to change the cooler cuz it makes a hell of a lot of noise
also if u've got fm3 motherboard i'd replace it with a cheap one supporting fm3+. It is impossible to find new fm3 cpus
amd fx 6300 is probably the best at cost-effectiveness. i m using it and i run dota at 100 fps on average at max settings with few exceptions like vsync, tree wind, grass and high quality water.
don't know how much impact these settings have, but i disabled them because i don't need them.
its only ~90€ aswell
@EmotionalDrift
They actually don't? They have the same amount of L1 & L2 cache in most cases, but the only processer that has the same amount of cache as the Haswell (l3) is the Broadwell which runs about $100-200 more than the Haswell.
Sure, given that money isn't a factor, get the newest + best thing out there.
Im not gonna repeat myself, check again yourself I have nothing more to prove you. i5s have 6mb and i7s have 8mb of L3 cache as far from Sandy Bridge until Kaby Lake.
Broadwell actually have less cache than other architectures, and it's irrelevant since it has never landed in mass production for desktop market...
KYS
Kys over this? Sad, angry person...
Haswell cache for L3 is 15mb as apposed (as you just said) to the 6mb & 8mb of Sandy/Kabby/ most others.
wtf mine is 600$ with 6 gb. wtf the price tag of each pc in different location
I am only angry about your stupidity xD
http://ark.intel.com/m/compare/97150,80815
http://ark.intel.com/m/compare/97128,80806
Now go away and stop spreading disinformation...
Yeah snu you are a moron. Plus why does cache matter when benchmarks clearly show skylake is faster? Haswell is three fucking years old. Anyway used gpus are usually a good price point. Used cpu not in my opinion. And yes any 8xxx amd series will run dota fine and some are around 100$ and socket am3
Haswell i7's does have 15mb's, but only Haswell-E.
A 6-core Haswell CPU's for LGA2011.
Skylake is faster, but don't be fooled, it's not like, a mile faster.
A lot of the difference comes from DDR4 RAM which some games prefer over DDR3(due to higher freq.)..
With that being said, the ddr3 RAM does closes the gap if it's on 2000+ pretty decently.
Not saying anyone shopping a new CPU should go for haswell tho, don't get me wrong.
UNLESS, they are on the budget and they are from a poor contry.
DanishBlunt is right. Ryzen will be probably an amazing CPU. Wait for it.
And for all I know, getting the USED cpu is much safer than getting a used GPU. Just sayin..
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got a GTX 960, but my CPU is 6 years old.
Anyone recently purchased a $100-$200 CPU that can keep up decent FPS in dota?